no moral absolutes means you can do anything.

My family took in to foster children once. Their names were Mark and Paul. Judging from their behavior, they had spent the majority of their brief existences in front of a TV. They didn't know anything. They didn't know what a lie was or what the truth was. No one taught them anything. We tried to help them, but they were just too messed up. My parents got rid of them after a few months. Very sad.

[Choobus]

did you eat them? I know times were hard when you were growing up...

My home was always a constant parade of strangers: pregnant teens, runaways, screwed-up foster kids, mentally-deficient adults. It made for an interesting home.

[Erik]

YF,

Why can't you see that it is just as likely, in fact much more likely, that our senses of right and wrong are not much different than any other sense? We acquired them through evolution just like the sense of taste and the sense (in a different sense) of fear.

The problem with the idea of killing the other people on the Moon is that you're taking the risk that one or more of them will be able to resist you and perhaps kill you themselves. That is why a bargain is struck: I don't kill you and you don't kill me.

Choobus wrote

did you eat them? I know times were hard when you were growing up...

I was trying to point out that no one bothered to teach these kids right from wrong. So morality is taught.

[Sternwallow]

Another brick in the wall wrote

I was trying to point out that no one bothered to teach these kids right from wrong. So morality is taught.

I'm not so sure. We may be born with a joy for living, but a hard life may burn it out of us. Perhaps an innate morality can be suppressed by early years in a hostile environment being treated immorally.

I know that the purpose of military training is to take humans and turn them into killers, which is not so hard.

-What makes the grass grow?!

-Blood! Blood! Blood!

I do not see how the question of wither morals are taught is relevent to wither or not you 'need' 'god' to have a moral society or to have 'absolute' morals.

OTOH I also do not undersand how someone can be so stupid as to think either of the following

a. lack of absolute morals means you can do ANYTHING
b. god must be accepted as existing (or worse must actualy exist) for 'absolute' morals to exist

Never mind any of the half assed arguments based on them... so perhaps I am just not seeing the connection.

I do not see how the question of wither morals are taught is relevent to wither or not you 'need' 'god' to have a moral society or to have 'absolute' morals.

OTOH I also do not undersand how someone can be so stupid as to think either of the following

a. lack of absolute morals means you can do ANYTHING
b. god must be accepted as existing (or worse must actualy exist) for 'absolute' morals to exist

Never mind any of the half assed arguments based on them... so perhaps I am just not seeing the connection.