Worse Than Religion???

[aron.loyd]

First, a quote from a Genesis song: "Though your ship be sturdy, no mercy has the sea. Will you survive on the ocean of being." Next, a quote from a Frank Zappa song referring to the brainwashing effects of TV. Though there is a much wider source of brainwashing out there. It goes, "And you will do as you are told. Until the rights to you are sold." From the same song there is an even more pertinent lyric. It says, "Don't go for help. No one will heed you." To this, I would like to tell you that I have written a free e-book that can be found by entering the title on your web browser. Though I'm not asking you to read it. I just mention it in reference. It's called, "Our Holy Hell: The Causes, The Solutions." To a degree, it is a critique of the bible. Which is nothing new. Though I feel I have taken a unique approach to it. But the solutions part has been giving other Atheists fits. What set them off initially was my pointing out that though Atheists don't believe in god, they too are guilty of many of the same things. There are things that they don't want to know either. But it's pretty naive to think that the solutions to the worlds problems would be pleasant.
On this other Atheist web site, I actually had one atheist defending the bible to me! At one point he complained that I was approaching the bible from a standpoint of disbelief. At another point, after falsely accusing me of taking things out of context, he said that the bible was made to be read by chapter. There was this other guy who claimed to be a doctor. Being more articulate, he was even harder to debate. But he never won. Apparently there was no point in getting him to read the book as I would have preferred. So I told him to just go to any part of the main section of my book. (Which comprises four chapters) In it I make a short introduction to various parts of the bible I am about to destroy. After that I copy down the verses. Then I tear it to shreds. I told this "doctor" to go anywhere in these sections and find something where I was significantly mistaken. He couldn't do it. Not there or anyplace else. If I can get what I thought were fellow Atheists to act this way, it would seem there is something worse than religion out there.

[West491]

Great wall-o-text bro.

[Kate]

[Michael]

aron.loyd wrote

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Hi, aron. If you are staying around for more than one post and not just promoting your book, then google 'warm welcomes' and find an appropriate one that can be from me.



Not to be rude, but seriously? At least write some responses to things, make some witty and interesting comments, make us want to read what you wrote, not just 'hey I wrote a book. Go read it. Oh but you have to do all the work and find it for yourself on google'.

But on what you wrote - what exactly do you think atheists 'don't want to know'?

[Smellyoldgit]

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“MY EYES!!!!!!!!”~ Oscar Wilde on wall of text

A wall of text is something that is frowned upon in most, actually virtually all Internet societies, including forums, chat boards, and Uncyclopedia. You should not make walls of text because it can get you banned anywhere unless it is a place that encourages walls of text. I highly doubt any place does support something so irritating and annoying, but anything can exist, but not really because unless you are in heaven then that can happen. But no one actually knows that was just a hypothesis, a lame one that is. Actually not really lame. You can create a wall of text supporting site, but you would be hated if you do that, so do not. But you can if you like, but I discourage that. Now on to the actual information of walls of texts. The wall of text was invented when the Internet was invented, but actually it was slow at that time. So whenever it became fast. But there would need to be some free or not free community for people, and that community would be able to have walls of text. But that community probably wouldn't have actually invented the wall of text. So basically, no one except God and Al Gore knows when or where or how the wall of text existed/was invented. Noobs probably invented, but probably not. Who knows. Walls of texts are usually filled with a lot of useless information and junk. Information and junk can be the same, but only if the information is junk or the junk is information. But who cares. The information/junk inside a wall of text are usually related to wherever the wall of text is located, but the best walls of text, which are actually the most irritating, most eye-bleeding ones, are completely random. Walls of text usually make the reader asplode or have their eyes bleed and fall out of their sockets. These are boring and patient people who have no life or have all the time in their hands, which are the same, but not really. The punishment of what making walls of text varies of the strictness of the community. But it doesn't really matter. Nobody cares. Walls of texts should be free of links, different font colors, strange characters, which are those other symbols used in society, and capital letters because it ruins the whole purpose of the infamy of walls of texts. It makes them look fucking dumb and weird. Walls of texts are obviously free of huge spaces and outstanding things like capital letters. Of course, paragraphs should never be in a wall of text. Walls of text are known to create nausea, confusion, head explosion, and others. Like what the fuck? That was a rhetorical question right there. What the fuck? You are actually not requesting a satisfactory answer, you just say that because you try to be funny or you feel like it or if you are pissed off. You must get a proper bitch-slapping to stop making walls of text, but if you are weird then that doesn't apply to you. Walls of text are defeated by deleting them or splitting them into paragraphs. Or some other things that would work but will take hours to think of. People are considered a nuisance if they create walls of text. This might be the end. If you hope this is the end, I am not sure. But if I was not sure then I wouldn't be talking. I should know. Or should I? The best way to make a better and good wall of text is to copy and paste what you previously typed or write. Hey, that reminds me. Walls of text aren't always on the internet! They could be anywhere that is able to produce symbols. D'oh. A wall of text is something that is frowned upon in most, actually virtually all Internet societies, including forums, chat boards, and Uncyclopedia. You should not make walls of text because it can get you banned anywhere unless it is a place that encourages walls of text. I highly doubt any place does support something so irritating and annoying, but anything can exist, but not really because unless you are in heaven then that can happen. But no one actually knows that was just a hypothesis, a lame one that is. Actually not really lame. You can created a wall of text supporting site, but you would be hated if you do that, so do not. But you can if you like, but I discourage that. Now on to the actual information of walls of texts. The wall of text was invented when the Internet was invented, but actually it was slow at that time. So whenever it became fast. But there would need to be some free or not free community for people, and that community would be able to have walls of text. But that community probably wouldn't have actually invented the wall of text. So basically, no one except God and Al Gore knows when or where or how the wall of text existed/was invented. Noobs probably invented, but probably not. Who knows. Walls of texts are usually filled with a lot of useless information and junk. Information and junk can be the same, but only if the information is junk or the junk is information. But who cares. The information/junk inside a wall of text are usually related to wherever the wall of text is located, but the best walls of text, which are actually the most irritating, most eye-bleeding ones, are completely random. Walls of text usually make the reader asplode or have their eyes bleed and fall out of their sockets. A number of people can stand it, but not read them. Actually some people can stand and read them. Those people do not have short attention spans. These are boring and patient people who have no life or have all the time in their hands, which are the same, but not really. The punishment of what making walls of text varies of the strictness of the community. But it doesn't really matter. Nobody cares. It makes them look fucking dumb and weird and dumb. Walls of texts are obviously free of huge spaces and outstanding things like capital letters. Of course, paragraphs should never be in a wall of text. Walls of text are known to create nausea, confusion, head explosion, and others. The others being something I can not think of either because I am lazy or if I do not feel like it or I can not actually think of anything. Like what the fuck? That was a rhetorical question right there. What the fuck? You are actually not requesting a satisfactory answer, you just say that because you try to be funny or you feel like it or if you are pissed off. Now I just copied and pasted part of this huge wall of text, which is actually not. Wait what? Nice right? Ba boom a rhetorical question right there. Is this the end for the sanity of your eyes? What the fuck did you actually read up to here? Or did you skip to near the end and read this? Either way, you fail in life. Just kidding. Or was I? Oh well. Congratulations, or not, actually not. Get a life right now. I found a cheap life on eBay, but cheap lives are rare. Well, good luck in finding one. Not! Okay go kill yourself, but I wasn't meaning that. So go sit in the corner in your house. I do not care which, just stay there and rot. If you are not in a place with a corner, then lucky you. Find one if you can. There is no other option because I said so. Now if you pity yourself for reading this like most do, then do something productive and useful to the environment. My goodness. OK this is me here. I am starting a new section of this article. I didn't read anything in this article above here, but nevermind, because I have something important to say, and you really have to read this. So just skip everything above and just come to this part and start reading and agreeing. The wall of text was invented by engineers using typewriters. Everything was in typewriter font (because it was made on typewriters - remember when I explained that in the previous sentence?) and the point was to use all of the paper, because paper was very expensive back then, it had just been invented I think. So anyway, the point was, no margins at the top or bottom or sides. If you left a quarter inch on the sides of the paper, that was very bad. And the guiding principle was "This was hard to write, so it should be hard to read". Because they were software engineers, not writing engineers. Is there even such a thing a writing engineers? Probably. But anyway, please go back to the top of this article and read it over again. You'll get the point after you read it for approx. 10 to 15 times. OK have you done that now? Good. Now let's be honest - you're not reading down this far. Are you? Nobody would read down this far, unless they were a crazy person. Are you a crazy person? You might be. Now I'm afraid - it's just me alone with a crazy person. No one else has read down this far, just you, so it's just the two of us alone together here. Are you going to do something crazy? Maybe you will. Please don't hurt me. If you promise not to hurt me, I'll give a coupon good for a free Grand Slam Breakfast at Denny's. OK? Now just do this one thing for me, read the article over again, just one more time, and if you really truly don't agree with everything in it, then fine, I'll retire from my job with the railroad and we'll call the whole thing off and just go dancing, just the two of use, me (the writer) and you (a completely random crazy person who has actually read down this far), and boy won't we turn heads when we show up at Rockefeller Center with the entire Donner Party in tow! We'll dance all night to strains of the Lemon Pipers while the Italian 12th Armored Division prevents the Allies from thrusting into our rear! Ah, what memories we'll make, I'll never forget you, my completely insane random person. By the way this is magnificent example of wall of text. You have to be proud you read it all. Now please read article again, and this time pay attention.

[ILOVEJESUS]

Sausage, sausage, sausage and peas,
Tasted much nicer than mustard and cheese.

[Irreligious]

It's worse than a wall of text. It's complete nonsense, lacking in substance and coherency.

While the substance of anon.loyd's post is vague and muddled, there is no mistaking the patronizing tone of whatever it was he was trying to convey.

Without saying so directly, our newest members seems to think that atheists are brainwashed about something, or why else would he even raise the issue of brainwashing in his introductory post?

Exactly who he thinks is being brainwashed, by whom and about what, anon.loyd doesn't even make clear. Nor does he reveal the pertinence of quoting these particular lyrics from Geneisis and Frank Zappa. Does anon.loyd think that our incredulity regarding undefined god is somehow an attempt to escape the temporal nature of existence? Who knows? He doesn't say.

Nor does he explain why is he promoting his book here and simultaneously insisting that he's not actually goading us to purchase and read it. He claims to have mentioned his book only as a reference to something, of course, without identifying the reference.

He then claims his book is a critique of the Bible, while offering no clues about his hypothesis. Nor does he reveal the approach he has taken to justify whatever views he holds. Those views, whatever they are, also go unexpressed by him. All he reveals is that the approach he has taken in his critique is "unique" by his own estimation, of course.

Eventually, we get to the overtly patronizing stuff where anon.loyd claims to have stumped numerous other atheists in debates elsewhere on the internet, though he never bothers to explain the topic of those debates or reveal any of their contents, before finally implying that atheism is somehow worse than religion.

Ultimately, he never reveals how he arrived at that conclusion.

Will he ever? Probably not.

[Smellyoldgit]

Looks like anon's been to spam class to learn how to tease us gently into reading his work of art. I'll wager on a monster fail.

[JU Mike]

That odd feeling when you see what looks like an interesting discussion, but turns out to be a spammer promoting some book.

[aron.loyd]

West491.
Sorry if I came off as a little-lot pretentious or wordy. I thought I was being informative. I am kind of new at this stuff. I don't know if I should scale things down to a meaningless tweet or what. I hope I didn't stumble into a light teen chat room. Because there is a lot that I'm pissed off about. Worse yet, I have the answers. For instance, I ran across these tea party people protesting against free health care. But the U.S. goes nearly half a trillion deeper into debt each year just from the trade imbalance with China. I don't hear these people complaining about being able to afford that.

[aron.loyd]

Kate,
Sorry if I came off as to wordy or pretentious. It's just that there is a lot that pisses me off. And nobody seems to care. Like politics. In a surprising bit of honesty, a politician once said that there is so much legal corruption that goes on in washington that only a fool would get involved in the illegal kind. Yet I see all of these sheep cheering at these political conventions. It just makes me sick.

[aron.loyd]

Michael,
Sorry if I came off as pretentious or wordy. Unfortunately, there isn't anything funny that I have to say. I really like the band Genesis. There is a lyric from one of their songs that goes: "Sadness of the world brings the old man laughter. The laughter of the world only grieves him. Believe him. The old man's guide is chance." Are you really from down under? Or is that just a thing. Because here in the U.S. what they call democracy is really plutocracy. Or rule by the rich. Which isn't working out well for me. In my book, I suggest that government officials be elected by lot. If anybody can get more democratic than that, I would like to see it.

[aron.loyd]

Irreligious,
I didn't mean to imply that Atheism is worse than religion. Who could think such a thing! What I was meaning to say is that what I have to say is worse than religion. Seeing how I got some Atheists so riled up about what I had to say. Which is that basically brainwashing doesn't end with religion. The unfortunate thing is that religion is the creation of Humans. But as Humans, even among us Atheists there must be some blame for the world's problems to be found.

[aron.loyd]

Smellyoldgit,
My book is already a monster fail. In it I talk about incest, corruption, faith, slavery, cannibalism, morality, racism, politics, ecology, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. Who want's to hear about that shit! But when things go bad and everybody is looking around saying, What happened, I know I won't be to blame.

[aron.loyd]

I'm afraid I'm pretty new at this chat room thing. Sorry if I came as somebody just trying to get people to read my book. If that was all I wanted, I would just have said that and nothing else. I hoped that through my one sided conversation, I might have come up something somebody would be interested to hear. I find that is usually a good way to start a conversation. But instead it seems I came off as pretentious and overly wordy. I guess the main point is that god is shit and I can prove it. One guy here unfortunately thought that what I was trying to say is that Atheism is worse than religion. Which of course isn't the case. What I meant to say was that what I had to say was apparently worse than religion. Because the failures of the world can't be laid completely on the doorstep of religion. It only mostly can. But when it comes to the world's problems, not even us Atheists can claim to be as pure as the driven snow. What I think I need to do is see if I can find a way to make my letter "Worse than Religion" disappear.