Particles found to break speed of light

[Smellyoldgit]

ILOVEJESUS wrote

This may be of some use

.... a link is slightly more useful http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...peed_of_Light/

[Philboid Studge]

Starts With a Bang has been my go-to source for all things superluminal. (Although I admit I thought it was porn title before I clicked the link)

[Rhinoqulous]

Great article, thanks Phil! I know it's most likely a fault in their data or with the tracking, but it's fun to think of outlandish theories like Brane-Jumping and the possibility of a vacation on Alpha Centuri.

[Sternwallow]

Philboid Studge wrote

Starts With a Bang has been my go-to source for all things superluminal. (Although I admit I thought it was porn title before I clicked the link)

Thanks, Phil, that is indeed an excellent article. It requires only a tiny quaff of fortified fluid to discover the refined yet powerful porn embedded therein.

[ILOVEJESUS]

Smellyoldgit wrote

.... a link is slightly more useful http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...peed_of_Light/

Sorry , and thanks.

[ILOVEJESUS]

Philboid Studge wrote

Starts With a Bang has been my go-to source for all things superluminal. (Although I admit I thought it was porn title before I clicked the link)

I think what this paper also misses is that the supernova measurement is somewhat of a red herring. The way these neutrinos are produced is different to a distant supernova (covered in the BBC episode Smelly has linked to), so could well have done something peculiar. I still think we will find an error in the measuring of these particles, however this paper did not seem to disprove anything.
Also no one at OPERA is claiming anything. They have merely opened up an observation to scientific scrutiny. Kind of like religion does.

[Smellyoldgit]

The documentary was going well till it got onto string 'theory' towards the end - then it got rather ....

[Philboid Studge]

Sternwallow wrote

Thanks, Phil, that is indeed an excellent article. It requires only a tiny quaff of fortified fluid to discover the refined yet powerful porn embedded therein.

When I read this post I was hearing the voice of Professor Farnsworth for some reason. "Good news, everyone!"

Last night I rewatched the episode, "The Late Philip J. Fry." Hadn't realized it won an Emmy, but it is exceedingly excellent. (Bender, upon hearing of the Professor's time travel machine: "Time? I can't go back there!") But to keep things on topic, I noticed that our descendants, 50 million years in the future, have developed a way to use "negative mass neutrino fields ... to travel backwards in time."

ILJ wrote

Also no one at OPERA is claiming anything. They have merely opened up an observation to scientific scrutiny. Kind of like religion does.

LOL, and one of the commenters over there noted that too. Siegel's reply, fwiw:

The fact is that when OPERA released this result without releasing their full methodology and analysis (so how could one reasonably criticize it; we don't know what they did and didn't account for), they knew (or at least, should have known) how this would be received by the press. Anyone who's worked in experiment (including me) knows that a big problem is you identify and quantify all of your sources of error until you think you've got them all accounted for and/or the results match the prediction, and then you stop looking. I think the onus is on OPERA to show that they haven't missed something in their error analysis, and although they both know and admit it, they can't expect someone to swoop in and "find their error" until they release, fully, what they've done.

[Sternwallow]

Smellyoldgit wrote

The documentary was going well till it got onto string 'theory' towards the end - then it got rather ....

"stringy"?

[Kinich Ahau]

camp?

[Smellyoldgit]

[ILOVEJESUS]

Philboid Studge wrote

When I read this post I was hearing the voice of Professor Farnsworth for some reason. "Good news, everyone!"

Last night I rewatched the episode, "The Late Philip J. Fry." Hadn't realized it won an Emmy, but it is exceedingly excellent. (Bender, upon hearing of the Professor's time travel machine: "Time? I can't go back there!") But to keep things on topic, I noticed that our descendants, 50 million years in the future, have developed a way to use "negative mass neutrino fields ... to travel backwards in time."


LOL, and one of the commenters over there noted that too. Siegel's reply, fwiw:

Lol, well the documentary I recommended made clear that no claims were being made, just that the Opera chaps couldn't find fault and wanted to give others a go. I would say great minds......

[ghoulslime]

Philboid Studge wrote

When I read this post I was hearing the voice of Professor Farnsworth for some reason. "Good news, everyone!"

Last night I rewatched the episode, "The Late Philip J. Fry." Hadn't realized it won an Emmy, but it is exceedingly excellent. (Bender, upon hearing of the Professor's time travel machine: "Time? I can't go back there!") But to keep things on topic, I noticed that our descendants, 50 million years in the future, have developed a way to use "negative mass neutrino fields ... to travel backwards in time."


LOL, and one of the commenters over there noted that too. Siegel's reply, fwiw:

Wow! Biting a shiny metal ass may someday be a reality!

[Smellyoldgit]

Looks like they're having another go.

Scientists who announced that sub-atomic particles might be able to travel faster than light are to rerun their experiment in a different way. This will address criticisms and allow the physicists to shore up their analysis as much as possible before submitting it for publication.

I shall not be taking bets that the results will be 'different'

[ILOVEJESUS]

I t was a nice dream guys.