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Old 09-16-2017, 08:26 AM   #1
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Belief in Christ is evidence based

Evidence includes historic evidence.

If Jesus truly died and then resurrected from the dead then a miracle occured, and this supports the teachings of the Christian faith.

Both Atheist and Theist scholars of history attest

1) Jesus died on the cross
2) Jesus was buried in a tomb
3) Tomb was found empty by Jesus's women followers
4) Jesus was seen living, after his death, by a plurality of people.
5) Many of the plurality thereafter continued Jesus ministry proclaiming his resurrection - even to the point they were persecuted and killed for their beliefs / teachings.

Evidence based conclusion - a miracle occurred - Jesus arose from his death on the cross.

Ironically - atheist scholars to not come to this conclusion (i.e. they do not follow the evidence) - why? because they have faith that miracles do not occur!, so despite the evidence of support, at least one of posit 1,2,3,4 must be in error.

Atheisism is therefore based on faith. Christianity by evidence!!!
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Old 09-16-2017, 10:18 AM   #2
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Some of us would suggest Jesus never existed.

Stop the Holy See men!
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Old 09-16-2017, 02:09 PM   #3
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Some of us would suggest Jesus never existed.
Its about consensus opinion.

Naysayers to the basic assertions of Jesus Ressurection have been and are in the minority of historical scholarship.

Also, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to promote Christianity in as much to unmask the hypocracy of Atheists who proclaim their thinking is entirely evidence based.

Atheists have "faith" that miracles cannot occur.
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Old 09-16-2017, 02:31 PM   #4
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Old 09-16-2017, 02:35 PM   #5
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Old 09-16-2017, 02:41 PM   #6
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Its about consensus opinion.

Naysayers to the basic assertions of Jesus Ressurection have been and are in the minority of historical scholarship.

Also, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to promote Christianity in as much to unmask the hypocracy of Atheists who proclaim their thinking is entirely evidence based.

Atheists have "faith" that miracles cannot occur.



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Old 09-17-2017, 11:26 AM   #7
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Consensus opinion?!

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Old 09-17-2017, 01:58 PM   #8
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Old 09-17-2017, 02:14 PM   #9
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Its about consensus opinion.

Naysayers to the basic assertions of Jesus Ressurection have been and are in the minority of historical scholarship.
Up to the usual theologue trickery eh, the good ole fallacy!

argumentum ad populum

Getting a bit tired after a few millenia (YAWN!).


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Old 09-18-2017, 12:27 AM   #10
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Evidence includes historic evidence.

If Jesus truly died and then resurrected from the dead then a miracle occured, and this supports the teachings of the Christian faith.

Both Atheist and Theist scholars of history attest

1) Jesus died on the cross
2) Jesus was buried in a tomb
3) Tomb was found empty by Jesus's women followers
4) Jesus was seen living, after his death, by a plurality of people.
5) Many of the plurality thereafter continued Jesus ministry proclaiming his resurrection - even to the point they were persecuted and killed for their beliefs / teachings.

Evidence based conclusion - a miracle occurred - Jesus arose from his death on the cross.

Ironically - atheist scholars to not come to this conclusion (i.e. they do not follow the evidence) - why? because they have faith that miracles do not occur!, so despite the evidence of support, at least one of posit 1,2,3,4 must be in error.
As a Jesus expert, we are hoping you can answer the question every Biologist has, how exactly does a non-material being (God) impregnate a woman?

Atheisism is therefore based on faith. Christianity by evidence!!!
As a Jesus expert, we are hoping you can answer the question every Biologist has, how exactly does a non-material being (God) impregnate a woman?

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Old 09-18-2017, 06:49 AM   #11
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Both Atheist and Theist scholars of history attest

1) Jesus died on the cross
2) Jesus was buried in a tomb
3) Tomb was found empty by Jesus's women followers
4) Jesus was seen living, after his death, by a plurality of people.
5) Many of the plurality thereafter continued Jesus ministry proclaiming his resurrection - even to the point they were persecuted and killed for their beliefs / teachings.
For one, it's atheist, not "Atheist," you, stupid little fuckhead. For another, present evidence of a consensus of atheist scholars attesting to those five things.

But I don't expect much from irrational and dishonest liars for Jesus. Maybe you'll surprise us all by actually backing up the bullshit you try to peddle here.

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Randy Andy does seem to enjoy assembling his random word salads, demonstrating that he has no idea what most of his anal dribblings mean.
Perhaps we should explain that evidence is a sliding scale from 'very strong' to 'laughingly weak - inadmissible shite' and 'opinion' is not evidence.

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Old 09-18-2017, 11:41 AM   #13
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Hey look:

http://www.whitepages.com/name/Peter-Parker/New-York-NY

Peter Parker exists so Spiderman is real, y'all!

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Old 09-19-2017, 05:34 AM   #14
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Its about consensus opinion.

Naysayers to the basic assertions of Jesus Ressurection have been and are in the minority of historical scholarship.

Also, don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to promote Christianity in as much to unmask the hypocracy of Atheists who proclaim their thinking is entirely evidence based.

Atheists have "faith" that miracles cannot occur.

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Old 09-19-2017, 05:52 AM   #15
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Evidence includes historic evidence.

If Jesus truly died and then resurrected from the dead then a miracle occured, and this supports the teachings of the Christian faith.

Both Atheist and Theist scholars of history attest

1) Jesus died on the cross
2) Jesus was buried in a tomb
3) Tomb was found empty by Jesus's women followers
4) Jesus was seen living, after his death, by a plurality of people.
5) Many of the plurality thereafter continued Jesus ministry proclaiming his resurrection - even to the point they were persecuted and killed for their beliefs / teachings.

Evidence based conclusion - a miracle occurred - Jesus arose from his death on the cross.

Ironically - atheist scholars to not come to this conclusion (i.e. they do not follow the evidence) - why? because they have faith that miracles do not occur!, so despite the evidence of support, at least one of posit 1,2,3,4 must be in error.

Atheisism is therefore based on faith. Christianity by evidence!!!

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