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Old 04-26-2006, 05:51 PM   #1
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I have been in arguments recently with numerous numbers of creationists who claim that scientists all over the world are 'abandoning' the Darwinian evolutionary view for either ID or Creationism(whichever face of the coin is arguing). They claim to have lists of hundreds of thousands of scientists who are willing to public ally denounce evolution. When i ask them for proof of this subject, i either never receive a reply, or a hostile "go look it up for yourself". Can anyone provide a link to all these 'scientists' willing to dissent from evolution, or does anyone in the scientific community have any insight to how these matters of psudo-science vs science are handled?
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Old 04-26-2006, 07:26 PM   #2
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OK, googling this, I got this list here:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/bios/

Now who are these guys, really?

Asked why they aren't published in journals, you get this bullshit answer:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/crea...1/question.asp

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Old 04-26-2006, 08:32 PM   #3
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Thanks Mog. I actually took the time to Google Scholar a few of the names on that list randomly and i dident find one that had made an actual contribution with a scientific essay that was not directly creationist or yec related...

So much for their doctorates...
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Old 04-27-2006, 04:46 PM   #4
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Steve

Be sure to check the links to Project Steve and Talk.Origins for more info on the whole "Scientists everywhere doubt evilution!" schtick.
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Old 04-27-2006, 04:59 PM   #5
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Steve

Be sure to check the links to Project Steve and Talk.Origins for more info on the whole "Scientists everywhere doubt evilution!" schtick.
This Dr Russell says "Where I live and work (Albuquerque, New Mexico) there are large numbers of scientists, and I know many who happen to be biblical creationists. " I think he's confused by the guys who say, "Holy fucking Christ, look at the size of that mushroom cloud! I think I x-rayed the back of my head!"
Stupid fuck.
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Old 04-28-2006, 09:50 AM   #6
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ocmpoma wrote
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Steve

Be sure to check the links to Project Steve and Talk.Origins for more info on the whole "Scientists everywhere doubt evilution!" schtick.
This Dr Russell says "Where I live and work (Albuquerque, New Mexico) there are large numbers of scientists, and I know many who happen to be biblical creationists. " I think he's confused by the guys who say, "Holy fucking Christ, look at the size of that mushroom cloud! I think I x-rayed the back of my head!"
Stupid fuck.
Even if it was true that there are alot of creation scientists around him, that doesn't make it a good worldwide sample. I don't know a single creation scientist- does that mean I can say there are none in existence? No.

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Old 04-28-2006, 09:52 AM   #7
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Take a look at the AIG scientists list. The first two are retired, the third is an engineer, the next is a biologist who "came to Christ" - I've yet to see anyone on that list that's producing current, cutting-edge research.

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