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Old 11-21-2009, 11:01 AM   #16
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I thought "home schooling" was just a euphemism for "no schooling".

If you just want to get into bob jones "university" I suppose it's ok, Apart from that it's pretty useless.

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Old 11-21-2009, 12:04 PM   #17
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*looks up the lyrics* ahhhhhh ok - Hey, I'm 26, I grew up in the 80s XD

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Old 11-21-2009, 12:05 PM   #18
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I'd rather make home schooling illegal. I think the German's have the right idea there. Not just because of the religious wackery but because the state has a responsibility to it's children and you can't be honoring that obligation if adults can keep kids out of community eyes.

So would I, actually.

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Old 11-21-2009, 12:07 PM   #19
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I thought "home schooling" was just a euphemism for "no schooling".

If you just want to get into bob jones "university" I suppose it's ok, Apart from that it's pretty useless.
It depends - obviously there are families where the home-schooling is done well, or it's used because it's needed (for instance, when a child is facing bullying, or illness) and they're not so bad. Honestly though, I think those families aren't so bad HERE because we have a national curriculum and they HAVE to be taught certain things. In the good ol' US of A, I've seen what some home-schooling is like over there.. yuk.

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Old 11-21-2009, 08:46 PM   #20
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*looks up the lyrics* ahhhhhh ok - Hey, I'm 26, I grew up in the 80s XD
haha WE grew up in the late 80s and early 90s. That line lives through the decades.

There are many deeper reasons (must be) for people to reject evolution. Pride. Dogma. The larger religions speak nothing of evolution. If evolution is true, then what happens after death? We have no great purpose?
It's kinda like when someone tells them self that they can fix their long abusive relationship. Hope in a promise that can't be kept.

But yes, education would make a difference. I have heard "why can't chimps talk?" from a friend. Quite frustrating. Evolution is a lot more complicated then "god did it." Simple answer: Simple life.

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Old 11-21-2009, 09:31 PM   #21
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Old 11-21-2009, 09:34 PM   #22
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haha WE grew up in the late 80s and early 90s. That line lives through the decades.

There are many deeper reasons (must be) for people to reject evolution. Pride. Dogma. The larger religions speak nothing of evolution. If evolution is true, then what happens after death? We have no great purpose?
It's kinda like when someone tells them self that they can fix their long abusive relationship. Hope in a promise that can't be kept.

But yes, education would make a difference. I have heard "why can't chimps talk?" from a friend. Quite frustrating. Evolution is a lot more complicated then "god did it." Simple answer: Simple life.

I'd like a simple happy life. But I wouldn't sacrifice knowledge.
Eek! The youth of today! What has the world come to when Pink Floyd lyrics are no longer found on the tongues and hearts of world? Forget the promotion of Evolution! We need more Floyd!

By the way, which one is Pink?

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Old 11-21-2009, 11:16 PM   #23
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Old 11-29-2009, 10:26 PM   #24
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The home schooling I've seen in America is religious indoctrination....Jesus camp. Scary stuff.

On another forum I was on, a woman was proud of her high school freshmen son because he opposed the idea of evolution "something that has been crammed down our throats" She gave him credit for "thinking for himself" What a laugh. They don't want to believe in common sense, there is no argument that will win them over because their minds are made up. They have chosen to be terminally stupid to please their god and be eligible to climb the stairway to heaven.....
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:18 PM   #25
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Old 12-04-2009, 02:47 PM   #26
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I understand he's alive but may still owe some honourable people a few shekels - but I may be wrong.

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Old 12-04-2009, 04:05 PM   #27
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Kind of, he moved to Montana.

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Old 12-04-2009, 04:08 PM   #28
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well, after he promised me he would pay, say, 8 months ago, he moved to frozen hell...

One of the most irrational of all the conventions of modern society is the one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected....That they should have this immunity is an outrage. There is nothing in religious ideas, as a class, to lift them above other ideas. On the contrary, they are always dubious and often quite silly.
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Old 12-04-2009, 06:10 PM   #29
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Ah well. I used to feel like I was talking to someone of greater intelligence when I posted on his threads.

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Old 12-05-2009, 10:22 PM   #30
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...One radical idea I had was to compare evolution to the free market. It seems to me that many Americans have this reverence for free-market capitalism (you never hear an American espousing the virtues of socialism/communism) and evolution happens to share many of the properties of the free market. The free market is lightly regulated and likewise evolution has no regulator (no god), it's driven by competition, with the stronger triumphing over the weaker, it allocates resources to their most productive uses (over time it adapts living things to their environment extremely well), and it's driven by individuals (genes) trying to maximize their own gain/survival. Most Americans understand how the free market works and most think it's a good thing. By analogy they should then be able to accept evolution as well. Maybe signs should be made connecting the two: "Evolution is nature's free market", "Evolution support the free market", "Support the free market, support evolution", etc. Does this idea kind of make sense or am I just completely crazy?
the best I can come up with at the moment is evolutionists recieve no quarter from those that believe evolutionists are a threat to their morality, which is based upon the concept that at one point there was was an general abscence of existence.
as far as the rest of the post goes how about: "America, Free Evolution"
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