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Old 01-22-2015, 12:02 AM   #61
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But it probably did the same thing back when it was a dinosaur.
No issue! say dinosaur instead of hen .... ( I mean take the concept to think better )
Now, is my scenario correct?
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Old 01-22-2015, 12:20 AM   #62
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Maybe because they lived in a warm place they could just leave the eggs in the beginning but because of climate changes or to adapt to other climates they found they had to keep the eggs warm.

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Old 01-22-2015, 12:35 AM   #63
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Think more better please! Make your answer very acceptable and logical!

See, I found a perfect answer for my questions.
1- Origin hens laid eggs without nest. She did not prepare a nest because she did not know the future.
2- After several days, she found that eggs hatched and chicks came out.
3- She was happy.
4- After long time, she felt that she would lay eggs again.
5- She remembered. So, she made a nest for her chicks.
6- She laid eggs in the nest and incubated them until they hatched.
7- She fed her chicks.
8- And so on until the new behavior became innate.
9- By this way, the behavior passes from hens to chicks till now.

I am brilliant, am I? 
So in your list, hen lays eggs without nest, and it works. Then for some unexplained reason the hen remembered no nest technique working and made a nest anyway, then passed that behaviour on to the next generation, who subsequently passed it on and on etc?

A few problems -
A) in your example, the hen has no reason to build a nest or incubate.
B) behavioural traits like that can be taught and passed on generation to generation (see dolphins use of sea sponge as a bandage for an example), however innate traits - traits that would still be there even if you seperated and isolated a hen from birth - cannot be.

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Old 01-22-2015, 01:09 AM   #64
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So in your list, hen lays eggs without nest, and it works. Then for some unexplained reason the hen remembered no nest technique working and made a nest anyway, then passed that behaviour on to the next generation, who subsequently passed it on and on etc?

A few problems -
A) in your example, the hen has no reason to build a nest or incubate.
B) behavioural traits like that can be taught and passed on generation to generation (see dolphins use of sea sponge as a bandage for an example), however innate traits - traits that would still be there even if you seperated and isolated a hen from birth - cannot be.
Good! Now you are thinking better . You ask me good questions.
Do same for my question. Go back to your answers and think in same way?Show me a logical scenario.
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Old 01-22-2015, 01:56 AM   #65
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Good! Now you are thinking better . You ask me good questions.
Do same for my question. Go back to your answers and think in same way?Show me a logical scenario.
Since you apparently think there are problems with my answer, why don't we start with you telling me where you think the problems are?

And since you think my answer is wrong, can you give me an alternative answer to consider?

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Old 01-22-2015, 03:17 AM   #66
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7- She fed her chicks.
Don't think chickens feed their chicks as such, which points to their ancestors possibly abandoning the eggs to their own devices & the hatchlings being self sufficient.

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Why do these theist idiots keep coming here acting like they know more, but then betray that with cliche worn out arguments?

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Old 01-22-2015, 07:13 AM   #68
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A chicken walks into a bar, and says to the bar tender, "I'd like to buy some peanuts." The bar tender says, "Sorry, we don't sell peanuts." The chicken leaves.

The next day, the chicken walks into the bar, "I want to buy some peanuts." The bar tender replies, "I already told you we don't sell any fucking peanuts!" The chicken leaves.

The next day, the chicken walks into the bar, "I want to buy some peanuts!" The bar tender yells back, "Listen, motherfucker, I told you, we don't sell any goddamn peanuts! If you ask one more time, Im gonna nail you to the fucking wall!" So the chicken leaves.

The next day, the chicken walks into the bar, "Do you have any nails?" The bar tender says, "Nails? We don't have any nails." The Chicken asks, "Well then, do you have any peanuts?"



Do you think we could get some nails for ahoba?

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Old 01-22-2015, 07:25 AM   #69
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Why do these theist idiots keep coming here acting like they know more, but then betray that with cliche worn out arguments?
Still waiting for copyrighted Ken Ham punchline.

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Old 01-22-2015, 10:56 AM   #70
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Since you apparently think there are problems with my answer, why don't we start with you telling me where you think the problems are?

And since you think my answer is wrong, can you give me an alternative answer to consider?
See this Its likely instinct that some were born with to cover their eggs for protection etc


instinct?? protection?? like 'building nest'


Good luck ...
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Old 01-22-2015, 02:56 PM   #71
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See this Its likely instinct that some were born with to cover their eggs for protection etc


instinct?? protection?? like 'building nest'


Good luck ...

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Nah, it's probably not Jerry. Next round he'll show up as a little old lady atheist I think.

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Old 01-23-2015, 08:48 AM   #74
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(Quiznos spongmonkey youtube link)
LOL I *loved* those commercials! Too bad the food wasn't as entertaining.

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Old 01-24-2015, 11:13 AM   #75
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Still I am waiting!
Why did original hens protect the eggs? Of course they did not know they would hatch and got chicks! So for what did they protect them?

Is it a good question?
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