Stoned Tablets from the Mount

[anthonyjfuchs]

Wait for it...LDT#9 in five...four...three...two...

Ah: but wait...now she's reconsidering...does she really want to be predictable...does she want to do what I say she's going to do...does she want to prove that I'm right about her...

Oh, the inner turmoil...

Oh what fun! Guess what comes up first in the following search?

Results 1 - 10 of about 365,000 for female teachers sex offenders. (0.25 seconds)

The big list: Female teachers with students
Most comprehensive account on Internet of women predators on campus Color pictures and full details! Someone you know may be on the list, Toxic.

Here are 25 more at Lawfirms.com I assume there is some overlap but can't be bothered to check.

Of course, I am merely having fun, with the less usual. We all know it is males who are the chief problem. Indeed, this is regularly repeated in the popular media too. For instance, Saletan stated in an article he wrote for Slate:

According to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics, women committed only 3.5 percent of all single-perpetrator sexual assaults or rapes in this country in 2003, consistent with their share of these crimes since at least 1996. In California, where recent teacher-student cases have made news, the number of female offenders convicted annually has stayed flat for years at about 4 percent of the number of male offenders. Even in teaching, where women are highly overrepresented, five of seven studies reviewed by the U.S. Department of Education two years ago indicated that 80 percent to 96 percent of offenders were male

You don't really have to tell me that most are males. The type is out in full force here-- highly aggressive, filthy-mouthed, spewing toxic garbage and posting pornographic or fecal pictures. Oh yeah, no surprises.

So, run Heather! And take your little brother with you.

[Mog]

Wow, how did Lily get so off the topic here? What does any of this have to do with not including forbidding slavery on the ten commandments?

Anyway, I would suspect that female sex offenders are way more likely to be under-reported, thanks to the extra shame and preconceived notions about such people.

I would think Lily would get the hint though. The fact that her presence can derail a topic so badly seems to show that maybe she isn't contributing anything positive to this forum.

[Victus]

Mog wrote

Wow, how did Lily get so off the topic here?

Shirely, you jest.

[inkadu]

I imagine the proper response is to say plenty of other founding documents don't have anything to say about slavery and that you secretly own slaves of your own.

Are we running on about slavery again? This subject has been covered here quite thoroughly. Have you all got ten broken fingers? Did the idea of doing a search not occur to you?

[Mog]

Lily wrote

Are we running on about slavery again? This subject has been covered here quite thoroughly. Have you all got ten broken fingers? Did the idea of doing a search not occur to you?

Did the idea of actually trying to explain why god didn't want to put an anti-slavery law on the ten commandments rather than state that it made sense in "context" not occur to you?

I suppose I could play devil's advocate and actually come up with something (such as the infrastructure having limited means to deal with conquered people and trouble-makers, and slavery being a preferred option over execution and exile.), but the point of the exercise is to make you come up with something.

Of course, any such excuses is in a sense ad hoc reasoning, which I suppose is what you tend to use all the time, anyway.

[Kate]

Mog wrote

The fact that her presence can derail a topic so badly seems to show that maybe she isn't contributing anything positive to this forum.

Indeed. So stop quoting it. Please.

[anthonyjfuchs]

Lily doesn't want to talk about slavery because she knows what the topic does to her religion. There is no anti-slavery edict in any of the three sets of the ten commandments because none of the thirty commandments came from a supernatural deity. They were invented by men with a political agenda, attributed to a supernatural deity, and sold to simple-minded believers.

The ten commandments are nothing special. They're relevant today only as an example of a failed moral code used by a pocket of ancient Middle Easterners.

And yes, Lilith, we get it. Teachers are horrible, child-raping bastards. Lock them all up. And once you're done burning educators at the stake based on your dubious statistics -- better safe than sorry, I suppose -- just promise me that you'll turn that flame-thrower of indignation on all the priests raping children as well. Don't stop the great work your doing of weeding out those who harm the next generation.

Because all the statistics you can dig up about teachers molesting children don't change the fact that priests rape children too. I haven't tried to argue that priests are the only people who rape children, or even that all priests rape children. All I argue is that those who are accused should face the same investigation and legal consequences as those of any other profession -- say, teachers -- who are accused.

You, inexplicably, have a problem with that, and respond with the most preposterous of tacit accusations. You were, as I recall, a teacher once; should I ask how many students you raped before retiring, dear-heart? You seem to know quite a bit about the subject.

[psychodiva]

I don't think reason and logic will have any effect on the cow

[anthonyjfuchs]

They don't, but I won't stoop to her level.

Down there dwell child-rapists and their enablers.

anthonyjfuchs wrote

Lily doesn't want to talk about slavery because she knows what the topic does to her religion.

It does nothing. The subject has been thoroughly covered and only an idiot would say differently or think that it has some relevance to anything.

And yes, Lilith, we get it. Teachers are horrible, child-raping bastards. Lock them all up. And once you're done burning educators at the stake based on your dubious statistics -- better safe than sorry, I suppose

My statistics, Ton? I only know what the Associated Press uncovered in its 7 month long investigation-- and what I read in the daily paper. Is this what pedophiles do? Deflect?

I haven't tried to argue that priests are the only people who rape children, or even that all priests rape children.

Pathetic. Sins of omission are still sins. Not a single one of you ever brings up child abuse in any other context. There isn't one of you who gives a damn about children. This is all an excuse to bash priests. The fact that you don't bash any Protestant bodies which have similar stats (and all are lower than school teachers' statistics) is more confirmation that this is about Catholic bashing which has long deep roots in American and British history. If it were anything other than bashing, you would get your facts right. But facts interfere with your real purpose.

You were, as I recall, a teacher once; should I ask how many students you raped before retiring, dear-heart?

Nice try, pervert. Who retired? Unfortunately for you and your fantasies, I taught at the university level. All the legions of students I sleep with are well over voting age. Since I am also 12 years, 3 months and 17 days from retirement, there is lots of time yet for me to get it on with another legion or two. I must say, however, that unlike school teachers, I don't generally find the under 25 crowd attractive anymore. Still, for your sake, I will make the effort. And it will all be legal! Too bad you and your crowd can't say the same.

[anthonyjfuchs]

Slavery is just one issue that shows that your religion is nothing more than the changing political agendas of various men over time. Nothing special, and certain nothing divine.

And I wouldn't know what pedophiles do. Perhaps you should ask a priest.

You really are a deliberately blind old fool if you refuse to understand that our frustration with your brand of child-rapists is the additional atrocity of systemized cover-up. When you cite a single school district in which a concerted effort to silence victims and shuffle molesters occurred, then you'll get the level of indignation that you see pointed at your Church.

You love the idea that we don't care about children. It feeds your delusion that, because we disagree with you, we are evil. You are a foul, loathesome, empty, impotent little creature whose only remaining thrill is found in protecting actual accused child-rapists by accusing strangers of raping children. You are disgusting.

And Lilith: if you were getting some energetic college cock, you wouldn't be here.

[anthonyjfuchs]

Actually, Lilith, until you reattach yourself to reality and stop treating arbitrary accusations of child-rape like a legitimate arguing tactic, you will not be treated like an adult. For now: you are on time-out.

anthonyjfuchs wrote

You really are a deliberately blind old fool if you refuse to understand that our frustration with your brand of child-rapists is the additional atrocity of systemized cover-up. When you cite a single school district in which a concerted effort to silence victims and shuffle molesters occurred, then you'll get the level of indignation that you see pointed at your Church.

In what state would you like to start?

You love the idea that we don't care about children. It feeds your delusion that, because we disagree with you, we are evil. You are a foul, loathesome, empty, impotent little creature whose only remaining thrill is found in protecting actual accused child-rapists by accusing strangers of raping children. You are disgusting.

Good! Very good! You are teetering on the edge of getting it! Don't like guilt by association? Don't practice it.

And Lilith: if you were getting some energetic college cock, you wouldn't be here.

Only a fool could have missed the mockery in what I said.



Wait! A fool did miss it. Still, the fact that you are in retreat, is a good sign. Maybe some day you will care about the actual facts. You might even get them right.