Cell Membranes, origins through natural mechanisms, or design ? - Page 2

Hobotronic2037 · 08-05-2015, 08:28 AM

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Godlovesyou wrote

what do your questions have to do with my op ?

Hey, godlovesyou, since you require what you feel is a more relavant question to the OP before weighing in, I already gave you one that you have yet to address.

Here it is, again.

"Do you have any useful scientific theories about why the endomembrane compartment in the cytoplasm of eukaryotic cells exists?"

I'm waiting. But, don't worry, not holding my breath.

Smellyoldgit · 08-05-2015, 08:43 AM

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Godlovesyou wrote

what do your questions have to do with my op ?

I'm eagerly awaiting your detailed scientific explanation as to how the "sophisticated biological design" was undertaken in developing cells. I assume you have so much expertise to tap into, along with personal access to The Designer - this should be so elementary for a man of your mighty stature to pass on to us plebs.

Godlovesyou · 08-05-2015, 08:49 AM

Read Genesis 1. God spoke, information, and it happended , power. What is your alternative ?

Hobotronic2037 · 08-05-2015, 09:41 AM

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Godlovesyou wrote

Read Genesis 1. God spoke, information, and it happended , power. What is your alternative ?

Lol. Got it. Thanks!

Godlovesyou · 08-05-2015, 10:29 AM

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Hobotronic2037 wrote

Lol. Got it. Thanks!

How exactly did God create things ? what process was involved ?

http://reasonandscience.heavenforum....s-was-involved

How exactly is a mystery, but does not mean it is not understood by God. In genesis it says God spoke and things came into existence. God is a potent cause with power ( energy ) and his spoken word indicates information. Because we do not understand and in a detailled manner how he created the physical universe, and life, does not mean God does not understand or can't. Mystery to us is not mystery to God, but we do know that God is not limited to His spiritual realm, as he shown with his becoming of flesh in Jesus Christ.

Looking at the account of Genesis 1:1 for just a brief moment, the words in that first verse are quite remarkable. They are indicative of the incredible mind of God. God says in that first verse everything that could have been said about creation and He says it in such few terms. The statement is precise and concise almost beyond human composition. A well-known scientist named Herbert Spencer died in 1903. He discovered that all reality, all reality, all that exists in the universe can be contained in five categories...time, force, action, space and matter. Herbert Spencer said everything that exists, exists in one of those categories...time, force, action, space and matter.

Now think about that. Time, force, action, space and matter. That is a logical sequence. And then with that in your mind, listen to Genesis 1:1. "In the beginning," that's time..."God," that's force, "created," that's action, "the heavens," that's space, "and the earth," that's matter. Everything that could be said about everything that exists is said in that first verse.

Now either you believe that or you don't. You either believe that that verse is accurate and God is the force or you believe that God is not the force that created everything. And then you're left with chance or randomness or coincidence.

Smellyoldgit · 08-05-2015, 10:32 AM

Gosh, truly astounding!

Dunno why these sciency folk keep doin' their stuff - goddidit all along.

..... now we just need to know whodidgod .....

Smellyoldgit · 08-05-2015, 10:35 AM

This god thing must've been a thick cunt - making trees & greeny stuff before he made the sun for photosynthesis.

Hobotronic2037 · 08-05-2015, 10:57 AM

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Godlovesyou wrote

How exactly did God create things ? what process was involved ?

http://reasonandscience.heavenforum....s-was-involved

How exactly is a mystery, but does not mean it is not understood by God. In genesis it says God spoke and things came into existence. God is a potent cause with power ( energy ) and his spoken word indicates information. Because we do not understand and in a detailled manner how he created the physical universe, and life, does not mean God does not understand or can't. Mystery to us is not mystery to God, but we do know that God is not limited to His spiritual realm, as he shown with his becoming of flesh in Jesus Christ.

Looking at the account of Genesis 1:1 for just a brief moment, the words in that first verse are quite remarkable. They are indicative of the incredible mind of God. God says in that first verse everything that could have been said about creation and He says it in such few terms. The statement is precise and concise almost beyond human composition. A well-known scientist named Herbert Spencer died in 1903. He discovered that all reality, all reality, all that exists in the universe can be contained in five categories...time, force, action, space and matter. Herbert Spencer said everything that exists, exists in one of those categories...time, force, action, space and matter.

Now think about that. Time, force, action, space and matter. That is a logical sequence. And then with that in your mind, listen to Genesis 1:1. "In the beginning," that's time..."God," that's force, "created," that's action, "the heavens," that's space, "and the earth," that's matter. Everything that could be said about everything that exists is said in that first verse.

Now either you believe that or you don't. You either believe that that verse is accurate and God is the force or you believe that God is not the force that created everything. And then you're left with chance or randomness or coincidence.

I already said "got it." Which meant no further explanation was needed or wanted. You are beginning to annoy me profusely. Like having diarrhea on a hot day.

Smellyoldgit · 08-05-2015, 01:14 PM

What a fine collection of shysters we have pooping across our floors.
Our current fuckwit is creaming his cassock and lifting turds from 'heavenforum' - (where only The Admin seems to post).
The latest pearls of non-wisdom are lifted verbatim from this shithole, dated March 1999!!
Good to see they keep up with things in dreamworld!