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Old 10-14-2017, 09:58 AM   #1
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God really exists as an emanation from the human mind

Here's a fun argument to show how God really, actually exists. One that maybe an Atheist will have trouble refuting.


God exists
1) Many human minds believe in a God. A God "concept" therefore is physically (neuro-chemically) imprinted with these human brains,
2) Many such human minds also believe in and act on teachings proclaimed by their believed in God. Religious Teaching "concepts" are therefore cojointly neuro-chemically imprinted within these human's brains,
3) The God concept housed with such human minds therefore in a sense has power to "do things" based on physical (muskuloskeletal kinetic) enactment by said humans in fulfillment of said religious Teachings.
4) As this God "Concept" physically exists in the human mind and has power to actually do things (that the Human host would otherwise never necessarily do) - the God Concept can therefore be thought of as a real independent living entity.
5) Therefore, God Exists!!!!.

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When a concept of God integrates into (Atheists would say "infest") a human mind, it begins to really exist not just as an abstract notion but also as a physical neurochemical imprint within a small corner of the brain.
Importantly the Atheist will note this neurochemical imprint has actual power - as it demands and provokes action in the human!!!. These actions of course will be in line with said God's religious teachings. So it cannot be denied that God, in a way (as at least a neurochemical imprint with power to achieve its will), certainly and really exists - in 4 Billion hosts no less !!!.
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Old 10-14-2017, 02:15 PM   #2
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Here's a fun argument to show how God really, actually exists. One that maybe an Atheist will have trouble refuting.


God exists
1) Many human minds believe in a God. A God "concept" therefore is physically (neuro-chemically) imprinted with these human brains,
2) Many such human minds also believe in and act on teachings proclaimed by their believed in God. Religious Teaching "concepts" are therefore cojointly neuro-chemically imprinted within these human's brains,
3) The God concept housed with such human minds therefore in a sense has power to "do things" based on physical (muskuloskeletal kinetic) enactment by said humans in fulfillment of said religious Teachings.
4) As this God "Concept" physically exists in the human mind and has power to actually do things (that the Human host would otherwise never necessarily do) - the God Concept can therefore be thought of as a real independent living entity.
5) Therefore, God Exists!!!!.

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When a concept of God integrates into (Atheists would say "infest") a human mind, it begins to really exist not just as an abstract notion but also as a physical neurochemical imprint within a small corner of the brain.
Importantly the Atheist will note this neurochemical imprint has actual power - as it demands and provokes action in the human!!!. These actions of course will be in line with said God's religious teachings. So it cannot be denied that God, in a way (as at least a neurochemical imprint with power to achieve its will), certainly and really exists - in 4 Billion hosts no less !!!.
Can't argue with that, there are a lot of things like that. US constitution, boy love,, you name it.

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Old 10-14-2017, 02:57 PM   #3
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Can't argue with that...., .
Yay!!!
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Old 10-14-2017, 03:44 PM   #4
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.... the God Concept can therefore be thought of as a real independent living entity.

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Old 10-14-2017, 05:32 PM   #5
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No leaping man, everything is taken carefully, step by step.
Ha Ha - empty picture and hollow combative concepts as usual.. Can you give me a criticism (where the reasoning fails?) of substance?.
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Old 10-14-2017, 05:49 PM   #6
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How does "all in the mind" get to be "a real independent living entity" other than still being "thought of"?
I get that it's only fun, but feel free to use words like deluded fuckwittery as you see fit.

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Old 10-14-2017, 07:52 PM   #7
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How does "all in the mind" get to be "a real independent living entity" other than still being "thought of"?
I get that it's only fun, but feel free to use words like deluded fuckwittery as you see fit.
I thought I made it extremely clear. But I will rewrite the same concept in differing words to help you.

The "thought" of God (and religious teachings pertaining to such God) encode themselves in the human believer's brain as a sustained physical neurochemical event within a cluster of cells.

One can then define these cluster of cells (and their neurochemical activity) as God's "mind" - a real and actual physical manifestation which takes a life of its own (i.e. becomes a "real independent living entity) !

Once strong enough these cells gain the power to greatly influence and control the overall mind of the human host - to do things the host would not necessarily have done otherwise.

The host then becomes the "arms, legs, mouth, eyes etc" (or body) of the cluster of cells which house and manifest the God presence.

Or in other words

God's mind = cluster of brain cells exhibiting a particular (i.e. religious based), sustained, neurochemical activity
God's body = physical body of human host, obeying commands arising from God's mind.

So God really has a mind and body - therefore God exists!
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Old 10-14-2017, 10:53 PM   #8
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Once strong enough these cells gain the power to greatly influence and control the overall mind of the human host - to do things the host would not necessarily have done otherwise.
I can't argue with this, it's called delusion.

God exists because of evolutionary processes, god exist because it's created by the mind, god exists because of miracles. Add those to all your past lame attempts. For fuck sake which one is it? It just looks like you are really really pathetically desperate for god to be real. You will never be accused of consistency.

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Old 10-15-2017, 10:02 AM   #9
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I can't argue with this, it's called delusion.

God exists because of evolutionary processes, god exist because it's created by the mind, god exists because of miracles. Add those to all your past lame attempts. For fuck sake which one is it? It just looks like you are really really pathetically desperate for god to be real. You will never be accused of consistency.
A God, like the kind one may think of in a conventional sense (with power's well beyond what humans presently yield), may exist because of evolutionary processes. I've argued this because of the massive theoretical capacity for evolution in a very old (if not eternal) and very large (if not infinitely large) cosmos.

But God for sure, at least exists in our world has a hard wired, and powerful mental manifestation. The powers of this God are limited to what human believers can do of course.

I never said God exists because of miracles. However I have shown that the resurrection of Jesus is supported by historical evidence.
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Old 10-15-2017, 10:19 AM   #10
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However I have shown that the resurrection of Jesus is supported by historical evidence.
Could you direct us to where you did that Andrew666, maybe we weren't paying attention?

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Old 10-15-2017, 11:01 AM   #11
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However I have shown that the resurrection of Jesus is supported by historical evidence.


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Old 10-25-2017, 05:07 AM   #12
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A God, like the kind one may think of in a conventional sense (with power's well beyond what humans presently yield), may exist because of evolutionary processes. I've argued this because of the massive theoretical capacity for evolution in a very old (if not eternal) and very large (if not infinitely large) cosmos.

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Old 10-17-2017, 04:56 PM   #13
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I thought I made it extremely clear.
It's quite clear, but that doesn't prevent it from being a load of tedious wank.

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One can then define these cluster of cells (and their neurochemical activity) as God's "mind"
One would be better to define them as the mind of a credulous, deluded, pea-brained fuckwit.

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- a real and actual physical manifestation which takes a life of its own (i.e. becomes a "real independent living entity) !
I think I've spotted your 'leap of logic' - or as you called it in one of your ancient, almost long forgotten gems - "something magical happened"

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Once strong enough these cells gain the power to greatly influence and control the overall mind of the human host - to do things the host would not necessarily have done otherwise.
Now we're back to deluded fuckwittery.

***sigh*** ... do let me know when you finally get to ram that Jesus shaped peg into your gaping-goatse shaped rectum.

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Old 10-17-2017, 05:20 PM   #14
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It's quite clear, but that doesn't prevent it from being a load of tedious wank.

One would be better to define them as the mind of a credulous, deluded, pea-brained fuckwit.

I think I've spotted your 'leap of logic' - or as you called it in one of your ancient, almost long forgotten gems - "something magical happened"

Now we're back to deluded fuckwittery.

***sigh*** ... do let me know when you finally get to ram that Jesus shaped peg into your gaping-goatse shaped rectum.
You can poo poo the argument, but you cannot deny that I have rationally and undeniably shown that a real, actualized "God" like entity, with will, power, enablement and activity - truly exists within our society.
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You can poo poo the argument,
Thank you - I will.
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that I have rationally and undeniably shown that a real, actualized "God" like entity, with will, power, enablement and activity - truly exists within our society.
You've shown nothing other than you still crave a Jesus-shaped peg rammed up your ring-piece.

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