Old 09-20-2007, 06:49 PM   #46
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How do you see "Sciencewoman" posting as a "mommy"?

(Not exactly atheistic, but I see it as something of an I'm-not-a-threatening-female kind of stance.....part of that white male dominated xian culture??)

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Old 09-20-2007, 06:50 PM   #47
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As almost top dog here, i go with this:

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On behalf of the unwashed, but well meaning-masses of the Raving Atheists Forum I wish to thank you for your kindness and patience.
It's been an amazing evening and we hope you feel the same.
We hope you come back again, frequently, to chat, lurk, post and relax.
Again, we thank you for this honor and wait for your book to come out.

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Old 09-20-2007, 06:51 PM   #48
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PZ, thanks so much for dropping by.... I'd like to ask one last question, but it requires reading of off-site material: below I'll slap up the link to a post at Overcoming Bias that riffs of the X-Men and talks about public perceptions of science which I would love to read your take on at some point in the (hopefully) not too distant future...

http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/0...e-as-lite.html
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:52 PM   #49
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Yes! But compromising our principles to accommodate their superstitions short-circuits any dialogue. They're going to have to accept us as we are -- disbelief and all.
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:54 PM   #50
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Come on man! Can we get any details on this book? Does Harry die? Is Snape a good guy or a bad guy?
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:56 PM   #51
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PZ, thanks so much for dropping by.... I'd like to ask one last question, but it requires reading of off-site material: below I'll slap up the link to a post at Overcoming Bias that riffs of the X-Men and talks about public perceptions of science which I would love to read your take on at some point in the (hopefully) not too distant future...

http://www.overcomingbias.com/2007/0...e-as-lite.html
X-Men sucked. The "science" of the whole thing was ridiculous.
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:57 PM   #52
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How do you see "Sciencewoman" posting as a "mommy"?
Mommy is an important role. Disrespecting it is one of the contributors to the diminishment of women.
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:58 PM   #53
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Hey PZ, what do you think of attempts to organize atheist into coherent groups, such as Dennett's "Bright" movement?

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Old 09-20-2007, 06:58 PM   #54
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Oh, hey, if you're into a little bit of quid pro quo maybe a short blog entry linking to this thread would be pretty sweet.

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Old 09-20-2007, 06:58 PM   #55
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Come on man! Can we get any details on this book? Does Harry die? Is Snape a good guy or a bad guy?
What? Snape was the only good guy in the whole thing! Potter was a pathetic distraction.
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:59 PM   #56
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Are there any scifi movies you can watch without cringing at terrible science content?
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Old 09-20-2007, 06:59 PM   #57
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I like that!

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Old 09-20-2007, 07:00 PM   #58
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X-Men sucked. The "science" of the whole thing was ridiculous.
Which is somewhat the point of the post at OB:
"The X-Men comics use terms like "evolution", "mutation", and "genetic code", purely to place themselves in what they conceive to be the literary genre of science. The part that scares me is wondering how many people, especially in the media, understand science only as a literary genre."
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Old 09-20-2007, 07:00 PM   #59
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PZ, were you really scared with your recent lawsuit? that was big money...

have to say, Peter Irons really wrote the other guy's lawyer a little gem of jurisprudence...that letter, I understand, was all it took for the suit to be thrown? or did you have personal lawyers involved in that ridiculous fracas too?

One of the most irrational of all the conventions of modern society is the one to the effect that religious opinions should be respected....That they should have this immunity is an outrage. There is nothing in religious ideas, as a class, to lift them above other ideas. On the contrary, they are always dubious and often quite silly.
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Which is somewhat the point of the post at OB:
"The X-Men comics use terms like "evolution", "mutation", and "genetic code", purely to place themselves in what they conceive to be the literary genre of science. The part that scares me is wondering how many people, especially in the media, understand science only as a literary genre."
Using the term "literary" that many times in reference to the X-Men is nothing but hilarious.

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