11-11-2006, 04:12 PM
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scathach wrote
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TheAmazingPinball wrote
My biggest weakness is that when I read the words of say, a Lily, I just shut off to them. Kind of like "screw this nonsensical trash." It is really as lazy and ignorant as settling on a god belief is. I really think that if I want to effect a change, I have got to bypass that short circuit in my thinking and find a way to follow through even if I am finding it futile at the moment.
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It's only necessary to do that once or twice, after that, you'll find there is absolutely nothing new to the arguments/apologetics, EVER. It's neither lazy nor ignorant to avoid wasting precious minutes of your life reading the same old shit over and over again, rather, it's both wise and practical.
Of course, I occasionally find it amusing to skim over the lilytard's posts, just to see if I feel inspired to post something snarky in response.
I've been trying to think of an answer to this question since the first day it posted, and if there's one thing I can think of that's a weakness in my atheism, it's that I'm not "out" about it enough. But that's changing.
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Yes, you are quite correct. I guess I'm worried about it becoming a habit to do that before I've given her all she's got! I blame so much on laziness of thought that I'm terrified of being guilty of it too. Even though I'm pretty sure I must be in some way that I'm not yet aware of. I've caught myself before so it's got to be possible I will again. I guess on the bright side I'm closer to who I want to be when I do catch myself.
I do the skim and snark thing too! Hehe! It can be fun.
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11-11-2006, 06:01 PM
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#62
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I Live Here
Join Date: Feb 2005
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JU Mike wrote
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scathach wrote
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antix wrote
Just remember to look to the weakness itself, and in it you will find strength. Or something. Not to mention, great awsomeness lies within the heart of this weakness.
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WoW! This is the nicest list I've ever been on!
And I don't think good taste in women is a weakness.
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I agree...
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Good taste, less filling.
"Those who most loudly proclaim their honesty are least likely to possess it."
"Atheism: rejecting all absurdity." S.H.
"Reality, the God alternative"
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11-13-2006, 06:14 PM
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I think my biggest weakness, especially as a new atheist, is thinking that on my death bed, I'll profess belief in God just incase. I'd believed him to be true in my heart for so long, and thinking that he could help me out of situations did give me a lot of comfort. I also attributed a lot of the favourable coincidences in my life to him at the time, so it made God more real to me than it would have otherwise. I think I'll always be a little tainted with the disease of Christian faith, even though I certainly don't want to be. Any other former theists out there who feel the same way?
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11-13-2006, 07:51 PM
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Obsessed Member
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: New York City
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Empire wrote
I think my biggest weakness, especially as a new atheist, is thinking that on my death bed, I'll profess belief in God just incase. I'd believed him to be true in my heart for so long, and thinking that he could help me out of situations did give me a lot of comfort. I also attributed a lot of the favourable coincidences in my life to him at the time, so it made God more real to me than it would have otherwise. I think I'll always be a little tainted with the disease of Christian faith, even though I certainly don't want to be. Any other former theists out there who feel the same way?
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On my first few days of atheism I felt the same way, but eventually it flew out and I got the proof right here:
FUCK THE HOLY SPIRIT!!!!!!
See all you gotta do is stand up.
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11-13-2006, 08:35 PM
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I Live Here
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Empire wrote
I think my biggest weakness, especially as a new atheist, is thinking that on my death bed, I'll profess belief in God just incase. I'd believed him to be true in my heart for so long, and thinking that he could help me out of situations did give me a lot of comfort. I also attributed a lot of the favourable coincidences in my life to him at the time, so it made God more real to me than it would have otherwise. I think I'll always be a little tainted with the disease of Christian faith, even though I certainly don't want to be. Any other former theists out there who feel the same way?
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It is understandable that you might feel that way. It is very hard to erase the effects of a lifetime of faith, it is nearly impossible just to catalog them all.
If, as atheists believe, there is nothing remaining of a personality after death, it can do no harm in those last moments to scream and beg and curse and pray and any other thing that gives any tiny hope or comfort. I see nothing wrong with making extravagant promises at a time like that since they are addressed to a non-entity.
An awful lie was passed around that Darwin converted on his deathbed, but it would not have mattered greatly if he did. It would not change, in the smallest way, the truth of his data or the conclusions he drew from them.
"Those who most loudly proclaim their honesty are least likely to possess it."
"Atheism: rejecting all absurdity." S.H.
"Reality, the God alternative"
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11-13-2006, 09:04 PM
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still unsmited
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Baphomet wrote
Silver Bullets! My only weakness!
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EW!! Are you saying you like COORS???? :vomit:
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11-13-2006, 09:09 PM
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still unsmited
Join Date: Sep 2005
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TheAmazingPinball wrote
...I guess I'm worried about it becoming a habit to do that before I've given her all she's got! I blame so much on laziness of thought that I'm terrified of being guilty of it too. Even though I'm pretty sure I must be in some way that I'm not yet aware of. I've caught myself before so it's got to be possible I will again. I guess on the bright side I'm closer to who I want to be when I do catch myself.
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I suspect that a person who worries as much as you seem to about mental laziness is far less likely to engage in it than theists others who never doubt themselves.
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TheAmazingPinball wrote
I do the skim and snark thing too! Hehe! It can be fun.
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Skim and snark! You betcha! :thumbsup: Pefect relaxation after a long annoying day dealing with fundies at work! And the beauty is, you never have to read the response, so you always get the last word!
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11-13-2006, 10:13 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2006
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Professor Chaos wrote
I have many.
Darwinfish
Kate
Eva
Homocyclist
Scathach
Heathenlifer
4thgen
The list goes on. Hence the need for my erection smilie.
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Aww. :heart::kiss: Thanks, that made my day!
If your calculator adds your inputs 2 and 3 and gets 5, but the real problem you were trying to solve was 2 plus 2, the machine gives the wrong answer for your problem. The machine isn\'t broken and yet it got the wrong answer. It was gullible and believed your lie and behaved accordingly. - Sternwallow
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11-13-2006, 10:37 PM
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Sternwallow wrote
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Empire wrote
I think my biggest weakness, especially as a new atheist, is thinking that on my death bed, I'll profess belief in God just incase. I'd believed him to be true in my heart for so long, and thinking that he could help me out of situations did give me a lot of comfort. I also attributed a lot of the favourable coincidences in my life to him at the time, so it made God more real to me than it would have otherwise. I think I'll always be a little tainted with the disease of Christian faith, even though I certainly don't want to be. Any other former theists out there who feel the same way?
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It is understandable that you might feel that way. It is very hard to erase the effects of a lifetime of faith, it is nearly impossible just to catalog them all.
If, as atheists believe, there is nothing remaining of a personality after death, it can do no harm in those last moments to scream and beg and curse and pray and any other thing that gives any tiny hope or comfort. I see nothing wrong with making extravagant promises at a time like that since they are addressed to a non-entity.
An awful lie was passed around that Darwin converted on his deathbed, but it would not have mattered greatly if he did. It would not change, in the smallest way, the truth of his data or the conclusions he drew from them.
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Wise as always Sternwallow! :)
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