God really exists as an emanation from the human mind

Andrew66 · 10-14-2017, 09:58 AM

Here's a fun argument to show how God really, actually exists. One that maybe an Atheist will have trouble refuting.

God exists
1) Many human minds believe in a God. A God "concept" therefore is physically (neuro-chemically) imprinted with these human brains,
2) Many such human minds also believe in and act on teachings proclaimed by their believed in God. Religious Teaching "concepts" are therefore cojointly neuro-chemically imprinted within these human's brains,
3) The God concept housed with such human minds therefore in a sense has power to "do things" based on physical (muskuloskeletal kinetic) enactment by said humans in fulfillment of said religious Teachings.
4) As this God "Concept" physically exists in the human mind and has power to actually do things (that the Human host would otherwise never necessarily do) - the God Concept can therefore be thought of as a real independent living entity.
5) Therefore, God Exists!!!!.

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When a concept of God integrates into (Atheists would say "infest") a human mind, it begins to really exist not just as an abstract notion but also as a physical neurochemical imprint within a small corner of the brain.
Importantly the Atheist will note this neurochemical imprint has actual power - as it demands and provokes action in the human!!!. These actions of course will be in line with said God's religious teachings. So it cannot be denied that God, in a way (as at least a neurochemical imprint with power to achieve its will), certainly and really exists - in 4 Billion hosts no less !!!.

dogpet · 10-14-2017, 02:15 PM

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Andrew66 wrote

Here's a fun argument to show how God really, actually exists. One that maybe an Atheist will have trouble refuting.

God exists
1) Many human minds believe in a God. A God "concept" therefore is physically (neuro-chemically) imprinted with these human brains,
2) Many such human minds also believe in and act on teachings proclaimed by their believed in God. Religious Teaching "concepts" are therefore cojointly neuro-chemically imprinted within these human's brains,
3) The God concept housed with such human minds therefore in a sense has power to "do things" based on physical (muskuloskeletal kinetic) enactment by said humans in fulfillment of said religious Teachings.
4) As this God "Concept" physically exists in the human mind and has power to actually do things (that the Human host would otherwise never necessarily do) - the God Concept can therefore be thought of as a real independent living entity.
5) Therefore, God Exists!!!!.

Discussion:
When a concept of God integrates into (Atheists would say "infest") a human mind, it begins to really exist not just as an abstract notion but also as a physical neurochemical imprint within a small corner of the brain.
Importantly the Atheist will note this neurochemical imprint has actual power - as it demands and provokes action in the human!!!. These actions of course will be in line with said God's religious teachings. So it cannot be denied that God, in a way (as at least a neurochemical imprint with power to achieve its will), certainly and really exists - in 4 Billion hosts no less !!!.

Can't argue with that, there are a lot of things like that. US constitution, boy love,, you name it.

Andrew66 · 10-14-2017, 02:57 PM

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dogpet wrote

Can't argue with that...., .

Yay!!!

Smellyoldgit · 10-14-2017, 03:44 PM

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.... the God Concept can therefore be thought of as a real independent living entity.

Andrew66 · 10-14-2017, 05:32 PM

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No leaping man, everything is taken carefully, step by step.
Ha Ha - empty picture and hollow combative concepts as usual.. Can you give me a criticism (where the reasoning fails?) of substance?.

Smellyoldgit · 10-14-2017, 05:49 PM

How does "all in the mind" get to be "a real independent living entity" other than still being "thought of"?
I get that it's only fun, but feel free to use words like deluded fuckwittery as you see fit.

Andrew66 · 10-14-2017, 07:52 PM

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How does "all in the mind" get to be "a real independent living entity" other than still being "thought of"?
I get that it's only fun, but feel free to use words like deluded fuckwittery as you see fit.

I thought I made it extremely clear. But I will rewrite the same concept in differing words to help you.

The "thought" of God (and religious teachings pertaining to such God) encode themselves in the human believer's brain as a sustained physical neurochemical event within a cluster of cells.

One can then define these cluster of cells (and their neurochemical activity) as God's "mind" - a real and actual physical manifestation which takes a life of its own (i.e. becomes a "real independent living entity) !

Once strong enough these cells gain the power to greatly influence and control the overall mind of the human host - to do things the host would not necessarily have done otherwise.

The host then becomes the "arms, legs, mouth, eyes etc" (or body) of the cluster of cells which house and manifest the God presence.

Or in other words

God's mind = cluster of brain cells exhibiting a particular (i.e. religious based), sustained, neurochemical activity
God's body = physical body of human host, obeying commands arising from God's mind.

So God really has a mind and body - therefore God exists!

Kinich Ahau · 10-14-2017, 10:53 PM

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Once strong enough these cells gain the power to greatly influence and control the overall mind of the human host - to do things the host would not necessarily have done otherwise.

I can't argue with this, it's called delusion.

God exists because of evolutionary processes, god exist because it's created by the mind, god exists because of miracles. Add those to all your past lame attempts. For fuck sake which one is it? It just looks like you are really really pathetically desperate for god to be real. You will never be accused of consistency.

Kinich Ahau · 10-15-2017, 01:12 AM

Ok everyone it's time to pack up and go home, close the forum and go seek out an appropriate religion. Andy has proven that God exists! Wow, who would've known? It's all in his mind.

Oh shit! Which is the appropriate religion? Is it Falun Gong? Can you help us Andy?

Sinfidel · 10-15-2017, 02:05 AM

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Kinich Ahau wrote

Ok everyone it's time to pack up and go home, close the forum and go seek out an appropriate religion. Andy has proven that God exists! Wow, who would've known? It's all in his mind.

Oh shit! Which is the appropriate religion? Is it Falun Gong? Can you help us Andy?

Its Star Trek! In the Gospel according to Andrew, Jesus, our saviour, got here by sperm delivered by Transporter Beam! James T. Kirk eclipses Mohammed in prophecy.

Andrew66 · 10-15-2017, 10:02 AM

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Kinich Ahau wrote

I can't argue with this, it's called delusion.

God exists because of evolutionary processes, god exist because it's created by the mind, god exists because of miracles. Add those to all your past lame attempts. For fuck sake which one is it? It just looks like you are really really pathetically desperate for god to be real. You will never be accused of consistency.

A God, like the kind one may think of in a conventional sense (with power's well beyond what humans presently yield), may exist because of evolutionary processes. I've argued this because of the massive theoretical capacity for evolution in a very old (if not eternal) and very large (if not infinitely large) cosmos.

But God for sure, at least exists in our world has a hard wired, and powerful mental manifestation. The powers of this God are limited to what human believers can do of course.

I never said God exists because of miracles. However I have shown that the resurrection of Jesus is supported by historical evidence.

Andrew66 · 10-15-2017, 10:04 AM

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Sinfidel wrote

Its Star Trek! In the Gospel according to Andrew, Jesus, our saviour, got here by sperm delivered by Transporter Beam! James T. Kirk eclipses Mohammed in prophecy.

I don't object to this actually, if there is any truth to the Virgin Mary story.

I'm not sure if it was "sperm" that was delivered however, it could have been a ready made fetus for example?

Andrew66 · 10-15-2017, 10:08 AM

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Kinich Ahau wrote

Ok everyone it's time to pack up and go home, close the forum and go seek out an appropriate religion. Andy has proven that God exists! Wow, who would've known? It's all in his mind.

Oh shit! Which is the appropriate religion? Is it Falun Gong? Can you help us Andy?

Yes, many philosophers and theologeons have conjectured that God lives in our hearts and minds. I have just shown that there is actual biologic truth to this statement.

What is the appropriate religion? Very excellent question - we should start a new thread and figure that one out. The only religion which has basis on historical evidence is Christianity because of the Resurrection of Jesus (as I've outlined). So if you had to guess I would say Christianity.

dogpet · 10-15-2017, 10:19 AM

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However I have shown that the resurrection of Jesus is supported by historical evidence.

Could you direct us to where you did that Andrew666, maybe we weren't paying attention?

Sinfidel · 10-15-2017, 11:01 AM

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However I have shown that the resurrection of Jesus is supported by historical evidence.

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