Why something rather than nothing?

[Kate]

It's BEER!!!!

And I am in a nunnery. Weez all bout teh reelidgeon in these heer partz. Prayz bee! Now please excuse me while I wander outdoors and partake of the evening ambiance of yodeling imams and diesel generators.

[Jimble]

Sternwallow wrote

Lawrence Krauss explains very well on Youtube that there is never nothing for something to come from and there is always something even in places where everything has been removed.

Most of your own personal physical mass is the mass of the empty space between the subatomic particles in your body. Again, see Krauss for fuller explanation.

Thankyou! You were exactly right, it was Lawrence Krauss' videos i was thinking of.

I didn't thank you til now because that Ex Atheist fellow hijacked the thread and I forgot all about its original purpose.

[Philboid Studge]

Homer in Hell

[Sternwallow]

It is difficult to argue for something if you have nothing to start with. There would seem to be only two possibilities: something always or something from nothing. Theists are fond of stomping around claiming that it is impossible to make something from nothing and they do it while claiming that God(MNQB) did just that.

I think that nothing is just a special case or unique state of something so that the beginning of something where there was nothing is not an act of creation, it is just a triggered change of state much like the sudden crystallization of super-cooled water.

[Jimble]

Stern you don't get the circular cosmological argument

Nothing (except God) can come from nothing.
Something came from nothing.
Ergo God!

See, you missed the bit in brackets.. the 'clever' part..

Seriously though, I agree with you. (as usual)
Nothing isn't as nothingy as we've been led to believe, in physics.