Old 12-27-2011, 07:09 PM   #1081
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Old 12-27-2011, 07:30 PM   #1082
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If it comes down to Romney vs Obama, as I'm pretty sure it will, the choice is moot (from a philosophical point of view.... I realize for some, appearance is important, but behaviorally they will be the same.)
My impression too: I am thinking it won't make any difference to "little people" (aka, middle class).

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Old 12-27-2011, 07:34 PM   #1083
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I am not sure propaganda is the exact word for what they do, which is more on the order of self-delusion. They are capable of convincing themselves of the truth of the most obvious falsehood that supports their word view. Here is an example that was in the New York Times from a few days ago, the unsupported claim that the recent financial crisis was caused by Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, the two GSEs that underwrite mortgages in the US.

There was a need on the right to provide an explanation for what caused the financial crisis that didn't involve the obvious one, deregulation, a long time goal of the right. If they conceded that the financial crisis was caused by irresponsible behavior by the financial industry enabled by deregulation then the answer would be increased regulation, and worse, that they were wrong that regulation is a needless intrusion of the government into the operation of the markets.

Not mentioned in the piece is the irony that the two GSEs were converted into private investor owned companies so that the stockholders would be on the hook if the companies failed and not the tax payers. This was done on the advice of the right. It didn't work out too well. Plus the risky behavior of the two was the result of shareholder pressure to get in on the profits being earned by the private sector in the sub-prime mortgages, pressure that wouldn't have existed if they were still government agencies.
I didn't understand all of this, but my understanding is that the powers that be can use those that and convince themselves and/or others of absolute falsehoods, hence it is still highly successful propaganda. They have succeeded in getting much of the middle class to vote against their own interests: they have succeeded in this regard. The ability to lie and deceive w/o conscience may be what enable their success: people who care about the truth don't do this, and may be at an inherent disadvantage. For this reason, I wonder if the truth ever prevails.

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Old 12-27-2011, 11:29 PM   #1084
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The NDAA, which I've covered in this column in the past, allows for the detention and torture of American citizens on US soil -- without access to a trial or attorney, and without the government bringing formal charges. It's basically a return to the Dark Ages, and wipes out hundreds of years of civil rights progress in the Western world. Portman reportedly voted in favor of it.

Rep. Ron Paul has characterized the NDAA as "martial law," and groups as disparate as the ACLU, Amnesty International and even the FBI have expressed their serious concerns.
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Despite petitions and pleas from coast-to-coast, the legislation passed overwhelmingly. As it turns out, many politicians may be representatives of the people, but their voices are ones bought by corporations. Senator Robert Portman (R-Ohio) not only voted in favor of the NDAA, he also received $272,853 from the special interest groups that backed the bill."

If it comes down to Romney vs Obama, as I'm pretty sure it will, the choice is moot (from a philosophical point of view.... I realize for some, appearance is important, but behaviorally they will be the same.)
The furour over the NDAA is a bit over blown, in my opinion. The act doesn't allow for unlimited detention of US citizens. It doesn't even require the military to take over the detention of foreign born terrorists suspects as has been widely reported.

Here is a report by a journalist who actually read the act and asked people who are knowledgeable about the subject for their comments. Obama was willing to veto the entire DOD budget unless the offensive language was taken out or, as was the case, language added that rendered it useless. The question then becomes would Romney have done the same? I think not.

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Old 12-28-2011, 11:06 AM   #1085
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If it comes down to Romney vs Obama, as I'm pretty sure it will, the choice is moot (from a philosophical point of view.... I realize for some, appearance is important, but behaviorally they will be the same.)
It will come down to a choice between President Obama and Mitt Romney, two fairly mainstream, establishment politicians, but they are hardly the same man or else Republicans wouldn't be so desperate to unseat the former.

Ron Paul, a six-term Republican Congressman from Texas, is essentially a social conservative and, on that front, he has far more in common with most of his Republican colleagues in the House than Obama does. Romney is trying to re-make himself into a social conservative of that vein, and if he succeeds Obama as president, I think Romney will make that change. The Republicans in the House, especially if they retain the majority, will see to it.

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Old 12-29-2011, 01:29 PM   #1086
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Good for a LOL. Krazy Eyes' Iowa campaign chairman jumped off the cuckoo wagon and hitched his star to the Ron Paul lunatic train.

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A furious Bachmann accused her former chair of being bought off.

"Kent Sorenson personally told me he was offered a large sum of money to go to work for the Paul campaign," said the Minnesotan in a statement

Paul campaign chair Jesse Benton flatly denied that they were paying Sorenson.

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Old 12-31-2011, 02:03 PM   #1087
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Old 01-02-2012, 09:41 PM   #1090
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Old 01-02-2012, 10:54 PM   #1091
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Old 01-02-2012, 11:00 PM   #1092
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I would love it if Idaho and Ohio would do one like that. "Fifty States, fuckwads!"

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Old 01-03-2012, 05:23 AM   #1093
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Alan Turing anyone?

anyhoo- love the video- a lot I didn't know about Iowa in there and very nicely done

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Old 01-03-2012, 11:46 AM   #1094
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Alan Turing anyone?

anyhoo- love the video- a lot I didn't know about Iowa in there and very nicely done
Iowa is actually a pretty progressive state. Beyond what was mentioned in the video it has Election Day (Voter) Registration even for the Republican caucuses. (I wonder if the Republicans require proof of citizenship before the caucuses?) And non-partisan congressional redistricting resulting in the most competitive congressional races in the country.

The progressive movement actually started in the Midwest with the farmer's organizations called the grange. They initially were campaigning for more liquidity in the economy, more money available to be able to borrow to carry the farmers from the planting season to harvest.

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Old 01-04-2012, 06:18 AM   #1095
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Santorum?! Iowa, are you fucking kidding me? How many confused young gay men can there be in one state?

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