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Old 12-22-2014, 06:49 AM   #91
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Note two major indicators of religion in your post.
First of all, they are not indicators of religion, because they are not part of any definition of religion. You even stated that they are not part of your definition of religion.

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First of all, you attribute dishonesty to people who do not agree with you.
I also attribute dishonesty to people that do agree with me if I see that they are being dishonest. You are giving a good example of confirmation bias.

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Religious people everywhere think their view just so self evident that no one could dispute it - so disagreement must be "dishonest".
I do not think that my view is self evident, but you seem to think that yours is...

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The second indicator you display is the rejection of science.
I do not reject science. But this is a new one for you.

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Note how you cover your eyes rather than consider what science is currently (and seriously) exploring. Creationists are also very prone to this flaw in reasoning.
Ah, so you're ignoring the scientific process. You've mistaken a hypothesis with a theory, with people exploring a possibility and people that have demonstrated the possibility. Your bad, but no worries.

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Do you prefer to be called Minister or Reverend?
Don't matter to me what you call me, how about, Reverend Minister? Again, I don't care if you say that I'm religious. I really don't care, do it all you want. The more you do it, the more it makes me laugh. I want to see how much you can go down the wrong way before you see that you're wrong. Maybe you already see that you're wrong and are just carrying on in spite of it. Doesn't matter to me, it's hilarious either way.

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Old 12-22-2014, 06:54 AM   #92
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What can we call Francis when he actually is being dishonest? Which seems to be a lot by the way.

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Old 12-22-2014, 07:01 AM   #93
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This universe may or may not be simulated, but the intelligence of some on this site is clearly an illusion.
Oh snap, y'all!

In my observations, dishonest shit bags display a few characteristics:
1) Avoiding direct points against their claims.
2) Misrepresenting their opponents statements.
3) Making pathetic attempts to insult those smarter.
4) Sticking to their original guns even when they admitted that parts of their claims are wrong.
5) Continues to make unsupported claims while refusing to back up any claim they made.

Now Francis has done all five of these things, clearly indicating that Francis is a dishonest shit bag.

I suppose that Franciepooh thinks that because I think Francis is being dishonest, that I must be a part of some religion. I wonder what religion I must be part of. Maybe Francie can tell me.

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Old 12-22-2014, 07:41 AM   #94
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What can we call Francis when he actually is being dishonest? Which seems to be a lot by the way.
"It is in the nature of fundamentalism that it
should contain a powerful streak of irrationality and
that it should not relate, in a verifiable, practical
way, to the everyday world. It is also necessary for a
fundamentalist belief that it should permit the
emergence of gurus, whose pronouncements can be widely
reported and pondered on endlessly - endlessly for the
reason that they contain nothing of substance, so that
it would take an eternity of time to distil even one
drop of sense from them."

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Old 12-22-2014, 10:49 AM   #95
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What can we call Francis when he actually is being dishonest? Which seems to be a lot by the way.
Shitlord!

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Old 12-22-2014, 01:15 PM   #96
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Oh. Yawn. Yet another poopy-on-you atheist. How creative.
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:21 PM   #97
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This universe may or may not be simulated, but the intelligence of some on this site is clearly an illusion.


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Oh snap, y'all!

In my observations, dishonest shit bags display a few characteristics:
1) Avoiding direct points against their claims.
2) Misrepresenting their opponents statements.
3) Making pathetic attempts to insult those smarter.
4) Sticking to their original guns even when they admitted that parts of their claims are wrong.
5) Continues to make unsupported claims while refusing to back up any claim they made.

Now Francis has done all five of these things, clearly indicating that Francis is a dishonest shit bag.

I suppose that Franciepooh thinks that because I think Francis is being dishonest, that I must be a part of some religion. I wonder what religion I must be part of. Maybe Francie can tell me.


I didn't mention your name in this context. I wonder why you took it personally. Did I strike a nerve?
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:57 PM   #98
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This universe may or may not be simulated, but the intelligence of some on this site is clearly an illusion.

I didn't mention your name in this context. I wonder why you took it personally. Did I strike a nerve?
No. But you go ahead and assume that you did.

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Old 12-22-2014, 02:40 PM   #99
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This universe may or may not be simulated, but the intelligence of some on this site is clearly an illusion.
Ooh look - an other example of Pope Francis arsenal of evidence for the simulated Universe!



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Old 12-22-2014, 07:14 PM   #100
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They have nothing but tenacity. They've been doing it for years. Best thing is they think their logic is water tight when theyre really just pissing down their leg again and getting a high 5 from another incontinent atheist.

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Old 12-23-2014, 06:53 AM   #101
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At the very least, our logic is less fallacious than thous.

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Old 12-23-2014, 12:51 PM   #102
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This universe may or may not be simulated, but the intelligence of some on this site is clearly an illusion.
Those who are unable to discern reality are referred to as the mentally ill.

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Old 12-23-2014, 12:52 PM   #103
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They have nothing but tenacity. They've been doing it for years. Best thing is they think their logic is water tight when theyre really just pissing down their leg again and getting a high 5 from another incontinent atheist.


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Old 12-23-2014, 02:32 PM   #104
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Further, there are actual scientists who have proposed experiments which they believe would reveal if this reality is or is not a simulation.
How do you know they are ACTUAL SCIENTISTS, and not just SIMULATED scientists, dumbass?



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Old 12-23-2014, 03:03 PM   #105
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This universe may or may not be simulated, but the intelligence of some on this site is clearly an illusion.

And the time to believe that the universe is a simulation is when there is demonstrable evidence and reasoned argument to support the claim. Not a second before.
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