Say Your Fuckin' Prayers!!

[ghoulslime]

dogpet wrote

Shouldn't grace be at the end of a meal anyhow, or wait till next day to see if anyone threw up?

It seems fitting to offer thanks upon excretion - just as the tapered tail of the ass fudge dragon is slipping out of the poop shoot. Thank you, Jesus!

[Sternwallow]

dogpet wrote

When someone asks the vicar to pray, for who's sake are they asking? The vicar's of course whether he wants to or not, the asking is part of the pantomime. I will object next time, who's with me?
Shouldn't grace be at the end of a meal anyhow, or wait till next day to see if anyone threw up?

According to Bart Simpson, grace and thanks should be aimed at those who actually earned and prepared the food.

[Smellyoldgit]

Our brains, which art in our heads,
treasured be thy name.
Thy reasoning come.
Thy best you can do be done
on earth as it is.
Give us this day new
insight to help us resolve conflicts and
ease pain.
And lead us not
into supernatural explanations;
deliver us from denial of logic.
For thine is the kingdom of reason,
and even though thy powers are limited,
and you're not always glorious
you are the best evolutionary adaptation
we have for helping this earth now and
forever and ever.
So be it.

[dogpet]

Sternwallow wrote

According to Bart Simpson, grace and thanks should be aimed at those who actually earned and prepared the food.

Rub-a-dub-dub, thanks for the grub.

Vicars should certainly be thanking someone for their (usually) free meal.

[Smellyoldgit]

Good for Billericay.

Billericay Town Council has voted to keep its meetings secular after a Christian councillor tried to introduce prayers at the start.

The Council chairman, John Buchanan, explained that the prayers would be to “ask God to help the councillors make their decisions and to make good the decisions for the people of the town." The proposition was defeated seven votes to three. Opposing the motion, councillor Pamela Went, said prayers would be “inappropriate".

The fact that 3 out of 10 voted in favour of a pre-meeting muttering is an annoying little scrotum itch, but I can live with it.

For the bigger picture;

The National Secular Society is launching a challenge in the High Court about the legitimacy of council prayers. The case is due to be heard on 17 November, and the NSS hopes that it will have national implications.

[Sternwallow]

Smellyoldgit wrote

Good for Billericay.
The fact that 3 out of 10 voted in favour of a pre-meeting muttering is an annoying little scrotum itch, but I can live with it.

For the bigger picture;

No god yet has shown to have a grasp on community planning and organization, or, indeed any decision-making talent at all that was better than the worst human capability.

Example of the quality of help god is alleged to have offered--
Problem: a guy is a nuisance due to having evil spirits (sent by god, not satan, by the way)
Solution: waste 2000 pigs you do not own.

Asking a god for guidance and wisdom is functionally identical to asking a comatose squirrel.

[Kate]

[efilnikufecin]

This is my rifle.
There are many like it but this one is mine.
My rifle is my best friend.
It is my life.
I must master it as I must master my life.
Without me, my rifle is useless.
Without my rifle I am useless.
I must fire my rifle true.
I must shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me.
I must shoot him before he shoots me.
I will.
Before God I swear this creed: my rifle and myself are defenders of my country, we are the masters of my enemy, we are the saviors of my life. So be it, until there is no enemy, but peace.
Amen.

[lostsheep]

Smellyoldgit wrote

Our brains, which art in our heads,
treasured be thy name.
Thy reasoning come.
Thy best you can do be done
on earth as it is.
Give us this day new
insight to help us resolve conflicts and
ease pain.
And lead us not
into supernatural explanations;
deliver us from denial of logic.
For thine is the kingdom of reason,
and even though thy powers are limited,
and you're not always glorious
you are the best evolutionary adaptation
we have for helping this earth now and
forever and ever.
So be it.

[Smellyoldgit]

Yeah, we hate prayin' in the mornin'

New research by the BBC indicates that the law requiring a daily act of collective worship in Britain’s state-maintained schools is widely ignored and not wanted.

Almost two-thirds (64%) of parents told a survey that their children did not attend such an activity and over two thirds (67%) of parents do not support enforcing the law.

Those in the south east were keenest on worship (40% of them), yet the least likely to get it. The South West and Midlands were nearly as keen. The North West and North East (34% and 33%) were least keen.

Good to see us northern oiks are flying the biggest heathen flag!

[Sol]

Learnt something new, I didn't know that law was still mandatory......

Never had to do any of that crap at school after the age of eleven..
Grammar school and incomprehensives did but not ours, nice to know we was ahead of the bell curve on something....

[Smellyoldgit]

More councils get a bollocking for muttering to imaginary friends during work time!

Ahead of our challenge to Council Prayers in Bideford, two local Councils have been censured for saying prayers before meetings.

Keith Porteous Wood, Executive Director of the National Secular Society, said: “Astoundingly, prayers are conducted in the majority of council meetings. Such prayers — often pushed by a religious clique — are entirely unnecessary, cause needless friction, and are a discourtesy (or worse) to those of other faiths and none. That is why we have taken one Council that refused our request to desist following a complaint by a councillor to a Judicial Review at the High Court. If we are successful, prayers will become unlawful throughout England and Wales.

I assume we'll all be praying for success at the Judicial Review? or maybe not.

[ghoulslime]

Smellyoldgit wrote

More councils get a bollocking for muttering to imaginary friends during work time!



I assume we'll all be praying for success at the Judicial Review? or maybe not.

Jesus leprechauns! Pray that this motion succeeds!

[Smellyoldgit]

This time, the poor wikw percycuted christ-stains are having a toy-throwing grizzle.

Axbridge Town Council raised the idea of abolishing prayers at its meetings last August when some councillors said the worship infringed on their rights as atheists.
But the idea has met with strong resistance. Axbridge Town Mayor Baz Hamblin said: “I would be very disappointed if we were told to scrap them. If we get rid of prayers, will we stop attending the church’s harvest festival? Will we stop paying for Christmas lights and a tree to be put up in the town square? Where will it all end? Christianity is being discriminated against in favour of a minority.”

A nearby council got it right in my view - abolishing the ridiculous mutterings because “councillors wanted a civil parish council, not a religious parish council.

[Smellyoldgit]

Well, the sane NSS and the deluded fuckwitted bible bashers are finally battling it out in the high court.

The National Secular Society had its day in court on Friday (2 December 2011), about five hours of intense legal activity.
Mr Wolfe put forward our three main grounds of claim that the Council’s practice of conducting prayers at the beginning of council meetings is unlawful in that:

(1) it is unjustified (and thus unlawful) indirect discrimination against persons of no religion; and

(2) it is incompatible with Articles 9 and 14 ECHR (freedom of religion/conscience and non-discrimination) and/or

(3) it is ultra vires (outside the powers of) the Council.

Judgment is expected within a month or two.

We've been trying to ditch this shit for 2,000 years, so I suppose another couple of months won't be too much of a problem - unless we lose, then we'll have to call in the armed horsemen to sort the buggers out.