"God" is not Omnipotent

Node18 · 03-14-2009, 06:16 PM

Pretty fucking obvious if he can't rid of the "anti-christ". What are your thoughts on "God"s so-called omnipotence?

Sternwallow · 03-14-2009, 09:45 PM

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Node18 wrote

Pretty fucking obvious if he can't rid of the "anti-christ". What are your thoughts on "God"s so-called omnipotence?

Of course God is not omnipotent, He cannot surprise Himself, cannot change His mind about anything and He cannot do what even the lowliest of His creations do easily, exhibit humility.

However, if the Universe is finite then its creator does not need to be infinitely powerful.

Omnipotence is overrated.

VladTheImpaler · 03-15-2009, 03:37 AM

Problem for Christians with that is that it makes their God seem rather... lame.

Thus they'll just ignore all counter-arguments, stick their heads in the sand and believe their God is omnipotent. Problem solved.

Philboid Studge · 03-15-2009, 04:55 AM

There is some honest disagreement among god fanboys about the meaning of 'omnipotent.' Some will argue that it does not include performing logical impossibilities, like making a square circle. I'll toss them this bone, since I don't think their Invisible Friend is even particularly potent, even in theory.

The zen god is so powerful It need not exist.

Sternwallow · 03-15-2009, 04:58 AM

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Philboid Studge wrote

There is some honest disagreement among god fanboys about the meaning of 'omnipotent.' Some will argue that it does not include performing logical impossibilities, like making a square circle. I'll toss them this bone, since I don't think their Invisible Friend is even particularly potent, even in theory.

The zen god is so powerful It need not exist.

The zener god is so powerful that, even if it could exist, which it can't, it wouldn't.

Philboid Studge · 03-15-2009, 05:23 AM

What is the sound of one hand fapping?

Kate · 03-15-2009, 06:33 AM

Node18 · 03-15-2009, 08:34 AM

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Sternwallow wrote

Of course God is not omnipotent, He cannot surprise Himself, cannot change His mind about anything and He cannot do what even the lowliest of His creations do easily, exhibit humility.

However, if the Universe is finite then its creator does not need to be infinitely powerful.

Omnipotence is overrated.

Those are some mighty fine points right there. Good to see that this forum is full of healthy brains.

calpurnpiso · 03-15-2009, 09:09 AM

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Node18 wrote

Those are some mighty fine points right there. Good to see that this forum is full of healthy brains.

Well, after all this site is called Raving Mentally Healthy, aka atheists,

Barney · 03-15-2009, 10:06 AM

God is so omnipotent, he can even kill himself. (thats the wibbly wobbely spirit self im talkin' bout Kids..not the Human version of himself who can be knocked off by a half dozen bored Roman soldiers whilst smoking , leaning on their pilums and planning their holidays)

Sternwallow · 03-15-2009, 11:25 AM

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Philboid Studge wrote

What is the sound of one hand fapping?

Depends if Mom is sitting in the next room.

Sternwallow · 03-15-2009, 11:28 AM

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Kate wrote

Kate, as usual, you beat me to it.

03-15-2009, 11:52 AM

I once heard someone say "If god is all powerful then could he create another being more powerful than himself? And if he could then that means there are MORE powers to be had which, in turn, would render him as not being all powerful."

Xans · 03-16-2009, 05:57 AM

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Node18 wrote

Pretty fucking obvious if he can't rid of the "anti-christ". What are your thoughts on "God"s so-called omnipotence?

God isn't "omnipotent" in the Greek philosophical sense of the word. Many rightly accept this fact and reject the Greek philosophical interpretation of "omnipotence". Greek philosophy has given us some good stuff but it's views on God are stupid.

Xans · 03-16-2009, 06:00 AM

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Sternwallow wrote

Of course God is not omnipotent, He cannot surprise Himself, cannot change His mind about anything and He cannot do what even the lowliest of His creations do easily, exhibit humility.

However, if the Universe is finite then its creator does not need to be infinitely powerful.

Omnipotence is overrated.

Actually, God can surprise himself, can change his mind, and exhibit humility. The only thing God can't do is do the illogical.

And is the universe finite?