06-28-2009, 09:01 AM
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#286
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ghoulslime wrote
Hey, that was adult conversation. How many kids do you know who can harvest a bolt of butt hole cloth every six months?
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Maybe Russia and China can bring him back to the negotiating table!
Never give a zombie girl a piggy back ride.
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06-28-2009, 09:06 AM
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#287
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I Live Here
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ubs wrote
Maybe Russia and China can bring him back to the negotiating table!
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That's the spirit! I knew that you would listen to reason. Besides, how grown up is a conversation about Lily's imaginary friend? Lily makes a lot of big girl noises, but she is nothing but a childish boob who still believes in Santa Claus.
The Leprechauns do not forbid the drawing of Their images, as long as we color within the lines. ~ Ghoulslime H Christ, Prophet, Seer, Revelator, and Masturbator
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06-28-2009, 09:08 AM
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#288
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Organ Donator
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ghoulslime wrote
Does anybody happen to know when Lily's birthday is? I was thinking of braiding my asshole hair into a necklace for her, and would like to know how much time I have to grow it out.
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We're going to have to look it up in the Necronomicon.
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06-28-2009, 09:49 AM
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#289
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Philboid Studge wrote
We're going to have to look it up in the Necronomicon.
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Klaatu barada nikto! Don't worry, I said it!
The Leprechauns do not forbid the drawing of Their images, as long as we color within the lines. ~ Ghoulslime H Christ, Prophet, Seer, Revelator, and Masturbator
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06-28-2009, 08:02 PM
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#290
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ghoulslime wrote
Hey, that was adult conversation. How many kids do you know who can harvest a bolt of butt hole cloth every six months?
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Wow man, you're everywhere
Never give a zombie girl a piggy back ride.
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06-28-2009, 08:06 PM
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#291
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ubs wrote
Wow man, you're everywhere
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Ha ha!
It took me about 2 minutes to get it! Har har!
I just got back from seeing Transformers at Paramount Studios. My mind is feeling scrambled. In fact, I can now commiserate with Lily somewhat. Speaking of...shouldn't Lily be returned from her daily futile worship, fortified with Jesus power, blood stains dripping from her fat chins and so?
The Leprechauns do not forbid the drawing of Their images, as long as we color within the lines. ~ Ghoulslime H Christ, Prophet, Seer, Revelator, and Masturbator
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06-28-2009, 09:12 PM
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#292
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watch out there!
just watch what happens!
transformers are LAME comapred to jesus.
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06-28-2009, 09:19 PM
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#293
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ubs wrote
Wow man, you're everywhere
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ubs, why are you screen cap-ing harry manholes?
u r so gay!
omg!
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07-11-2009, 12:39 AM
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#294
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Lily wrote
Magic and the supernatural are two different things. Belief in magic has to do with controlling forces to achieve some desired goal or end. The worldview of magic is essentially impersonal - certain ends follow necessarily from certain actions (the right magic words, the right spell or incantation, etc.).
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Nonsense. You attempt to fudge "forces" to support your claim of impersonality when we all know that magic incantations and propitiations are made to spirits or saints or to other supernatural beings who CAN be influenced to do our will.
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Belief in supernatural agency, on the other hand (essentially the worldview of monotheistic religions), says that the universe is fundamentally personal. There are no impersonal supernatural forces at work in the world, but there are supernatural beings with will and power to affect the physical world. But the supernatural, being personal rather than impersonal, can't be controlled or manipulated. This is because the fundamental reality of personal beings or agents is that they have free will. This distinction is crucial but difficult, if not impossible, for an atheist to understand or appreciate-- particularly one ignorant of anthropology where this distinction is rather well understood.
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Nonsense. Of the supernatural beings beloved by Christianity, only God and Satan have free will. Angels and demons do not since they always obey their respective masters perfectly.
Poor Bovina, stuck in a logical corner of her own devising yet again, out of which she cannot squirm.
"Those who most loudly proclaim their honesty are least likely to possess it."
"Atheism: rejecting all absurdity." S.H.
"Reality, the God alternative"
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07-11-2009, 12:51 AM
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#295
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Lily wrote
Mog, you and your atheist cohorts here are ignorant and content to be so. The distinction between magic and the supernatural is clear, known to all thinking people in disciplines that deal with one or both, and completely non-controversial. Your ignorance can't change that.
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Nonsense.
Magic relies on supernatural forces, most often supplied by supernatural or spiritual agents. It is Christianity that claims witches are "in league with the Devil", a thoroughly supernatural character and that he is the power behind their witchcraft.
Poor "Quad-spigot" Bovina, again caught in her own lack of understanding.
"Those who most loudly proclaim their honesty are least likely to possess it."
"Atheism: rejecting all absurdity." S.H.
"Reality, the God alternative"
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07-11-2009, 01:08 AM
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#296
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ubs wrote
Every scientists walks around with paradigms. That is, no one enters the lab "pure," and so all of them must suspend their preconceptions to conduct experiments - not just the theists.
Furthermore all of science is based on a concept of faith - the unprovable position that everything that is going on inside your head actually exists outside of your head.
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I disagree that there is faith involved in the position "that everything that is going on inside your head actually exists outside of your head". We have ample and easily repeatable evidence that our perceptions of reality are accurate. This is not proof and science rejects the notion of proof. So we have very good reasons and mountains of data that support our personal model of the real world. This model is so convincing and so well supported that it would be insane to reject it even if reality did not, after all, match it. I have no faith in gravity, but I know from long experience, that if I act as though my understanding of it is accurate, I will be able to walk to the fridge for another cold one.
"Those who most loudly proclaim their honesty are least likely to possess it."
"Atheism: rejecting all absurdity." S.H.
"Reality, the God alternative"
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07-11-2009, 01:10 AM
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#297
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ubs wrote
FYI. Sopolism proceeds Hollywood.
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What the heck does that mean?????
"Those who most loudly proclaim their honesty are least likely to possess it."
"Atheism: rejecting all absurdity." S.H.
"Reality, the God alternative"
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07-11-2009, 01:27 AM
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#298
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ubs wrote
If it's all in your head than anything can happen. If it's all God anything can happen. I think a strong argument can be made for sopolism or belief in the supernatural making you a better scientist.
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I can only guess what "sopolism" is, but the best scientist is one who successfully excludes the supernatural or personal bias. A scientist cannot be good, that is, cannot produce good results if the supernatural is included in any of his explanations. Here is a bad science explanation of the combination of Oxygen and Hydrogen to make water:"Place Hydrogen gas and Oxygen gas in a suitable container and, when a miracle happens, water is produced."
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You would be less likely to toss data that didn't fit a particular model. Something that isn't supposed to happen in the lab, but happens all the time.
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People who do that are very often caught by their colleagues and are shown to be poor scientists. That adversarial process is what makes science both powerful as a source of knowledge and makes it self-improving, so unlike carved-in-stone religion that cannot honestly advance beyond its sacred text.
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It's not the idea of a world or powers beyond our reconnoitering that is the problem. Its the rigid preconceptions of our origins and EVERYONE walks around with preconceptions about our origins. And everyone is rigid.
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The set of facts on which science's understanding about our origins is far from being a preconception, it is reinforced thousands of times a day and its predictions (unavailable from religious understanding) regularly provide improvements in our knowledge.
"Those who most loudly proclaim their honesty are least likely to possess it."
"Atheism: rejecting all absurdity." S.H.
"Reality, the God alternative"
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07-11-2009, 04:38 AM
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#299
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heh heh. 'quad-spigot'
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07-11-2009, 05:39 AM
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#300
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Sternwallow wrote
What the heck does that mean?????
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There's that word again!
Atheism is a strictly non-prophet organization. - Carlin
And the Catholic Cow sez: "The Inquisition was a legal proceeding.
Victims had rights, trials, etc."
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