01-22-2015, 12:02 AM
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Kinich Ahau wrote
But it probably did the same thing back when it was a dinosaur.
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No issue! say dinosaur instead of hen .... ( I mean take the concept to think better )
Now, is my scenario correct?
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01-22-2015, 12:20 AM
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Maybe because they lived in a warm place they could just leave the eggs in the beginning but because of climate changes or to adapt to other climates they found they had to keep the eggs warm.
Once you are dead, you are nothing. Graffito, Pompeii
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01-22-2015, 12:35 AM
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ahoba wrote
Think more better please! Make your answer very acceptable and logical!
See, I found a perfect answer for my questions.
1- Origin hens laid eggs without nest. She did not prepare a nest because she did not know the future.
2- After several days, she found that eggs hatched and chicks came out.
3- She was happy.
4- After long time, she felt that she would lay eggs again.
5- She remembered. So, she made a nest for her chicks.
6- She laid eggs in the nest and incubated them until they hatched.
7- She fed her chicks.
8- And so on until the new behavior became innate.
9- By this way, the behavior passes from hens to chicks till now.
I am brilliant, am I?
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So in your list, hen lays eggs without nest, and it works. Then for some unexplained reason the hen remembered no nest technique working and made a nest anyway, then passed that behaviour on to the next generation, who subsequently passed it on and on etc?
A few problems -
A) in your example, the hen has no reason to build a nest or incubate.
B) behavioural traits like that can be taught and passed on generation to generation (see dolphins use of sea sponge as a bandage for an example), however innate traits - traits that would still be there even if you seperated and isolated a hen from birth - cannot be.
Michael...you are correct
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01-22-2015, 01:09 AM
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#64
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Michael wrote
So in your list, hen lays eggs without nest, and it works. Then for some unexplained reason the hen remembered no nest technique working and made a nest anyway, then passed that behaviour on to the next generation, who subsequently passed it on and on etc?
A few problems -
A) in your example, the hen has no reason to build a nest or incubate.
B) behavioural traits like that can be taught and passed on generation to generation (see dolphins use of sea sponge as a bandage for an example), however innate traits - traits that would still be there even if you seperated and isolated a hen from birth - cannot be.
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Good! Now you are thinking better . You ask me good questions.
Do same for my question. Go back to your answers and think in same way?Show me a logical scenario.
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01-22-2015, 01:56 AM
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ahoba wrote
Good! Now you are thinking better . You ask me good questions.
Do same for my question. Go back to your answers and think in same way?Show me a logical scenario.
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Since you apparently think there are problems with my answer, why don't we start with you telling me where you think the problems are?
And since you think my answer is wrong, can you give me an alternative answer to consider?
Michael...you are correct
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01-22-2015, 03:17 AM
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ahoba wrote
7- She fed her chicks.
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Don't think chickens feed their chicks as such, which points to their ancestors possibly abandoning the eggs to their own devices & the hatchlings being self sufficient.
thank goodness he's on our side
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01-22-2015, 07:09 AM
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Why do these theist idiots keep coming here acting like they know more, but then betray that with cliche worn out arguments?
Always question all authorities because the authority you don't question is the most dangerous... except me, never question me.
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01-22-2015, 07:13 AM
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A chicken walks into a bar, and says to the bar tender, "I'd like to buy some peanuts." The bar tender says, "Sorry, we don't sell peanuts." The chicken leaves.
The next day, the chicken walks into the bar, "I want to buy some peanuts." The bar tender replies, "I already told you we don't sell any fucking peanuts!" The chicken leaves.
The next day, the chicken walks into the bar, "I want to buy some peanuts!" The bar tender yells back, "Listen, motherfucker, I told you, we don't sell any goddamn peanuts! If you ask one more time, I’m gonna nail you to the fucking wall!" So the chicken leaves.
The next day, the chicken walks into the bar, "Do you have any nails?" The bar tender says, "Nails? We don't have any nails." The Chicken asks, "Well then, do you have any peanuts?"
Do you think we could get some nails for ahoba?
The Leprechauns do not forbid the drawing of Their images, as long as we color within the lines. ~ Ghoulslime H Christ, Prophet, Seer, Revelator, and Masturbator
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01-22-2015, 07:25 AM
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Quote:
Davin wrote
Why do these theist idiots keep coming here acting like they know more, but then betray that with cliche worn out arguments?
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Still waiting for copyrighted Ken Ham punchline.
Once you are dead, you are nothing. Graffito, Pompeii
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01-22-2015, 10:56 AM
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Quote:
Michael wrote
Since you apparently think there are problems with my answer, why don't we start with you telling me where you think the problems are?
And since you think my answer is wrong, can you give me an alternative answer to consider?
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See this “It’s likely instinct that some were born with to cover their eggs for protection etc”
instinct?? protection?? like 'building nest'
Good luck ...
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01-22-2015, 02:56 PM
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"I do not intend to tiptoe through life only to arrive safely at death."
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
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01-22-2015, 08:44 PM
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Quote:
ahoba wrote
See this “It’s likely instinct that some were born with to cover their eggs for protection etc”
instinct?? protection?? like 'building nest'
Good luck ...
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Jerry? Is that you?
Once you are dead, you are nothing. Graffito, Pompeii
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01-23-2015, 08:19 AM
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Nah, it's probably not Jerry. Next round he'll show up as a little old lady atheist I think.
JJ
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01-23-2015, 08:48 AM
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Quote:
Kate wrote
(Quiznos spongmonkey youtube link)
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LOL I *loved* those commercials! Too bad the food wasn't as entertaining.
"Ignorance is not bliss; it is terrifying like walking blindfolded down a dark hallway full of set bear traps." ~ Sternwallow
Death will be like 1964 all over again.
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01-24-2015, 11:13 AM
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Still I am waiting!
Why did original hens protect the eggs? Of course they did not know they would hatch and got chicks! So for what did they protect them?
Is it a good question?
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