08-10-2015, 07:56 AM
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#196
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Why Ahoba doesn't do his own research....
Use foolproof airtight logic on a mind that's closed and you're dead. - William J. Reilly, Opening Closed Minds
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08-10-2015, 07:58 AM
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#197
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Quote:
ahoba wrote
This is a nature!! This is epistemology!! they are born knowing some thing!!!
So it is an instinct?! Then why do you disagree?
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I don't disagree. I've said all along that it is instinct. Read better.
It's also knowledge. And nature. And genetically wired neural networks, triggered into action by egg laying hormones and such.
It is the motor control of the chicken, informed by all of the above.
Until you can actually mind meld with a chicken and figure out what they are thinking, it's a pretty good working theory. And it doesn't need invisible friends from the supernatural realm to work quite nicely.
Om-a-let you think about that for a spell.
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08-10-2015, 09:33 AM
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#198
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Stinkin' Mod
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Britland
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Quote:
Hobotronic2037 wrote
Om-a-let you think about that for a spell.
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You must be yolking, he's too dim by oeuf to deal with such deep thinking.
Stop the Holy See men!
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08-10-2015, 10:44 AM
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#199
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Quote:
Smellyoldgit wrote
You must be yolking, he's too dim by oeuf to deal with such deep thinking.
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He's scrambling for comprehension. But looking up his crack.
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08-10-2015, 11:24 AM
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#200
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Quote:
Hobotronic2037 wrote
He's scrambling for comprehension. But looking up his crack.
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Be careful, you'll arouse his Eier if you keep up not taking his egg questions seriously.
Always question all authorities because the authority you don't question is the most dangerous... except me, never question me.
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08-10-2015, 12:03 PM
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#201
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Quote:
Davin wrote
Be careful, you'll arouse his Eier if you keep up not taking his egg questions seriously.
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He needs to remove fingers from his shell-like.
thank goodness he's on our side
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08-10-2015, 09:25 PM
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#202
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 90
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Quote:
Hobotronic2037 wrote
I don't disagree. I've said all along that it is instinct. Read better.
It's also knowledge. And nature. And genetically wired neural networks, triggered into action by egg laying hormones and such.
It is the motor control of the chicken, informed by all of the above.
Until you can actually mind meld with a chicken and figure out what they are thinking, it's a pretty good working theory. And it doesn't need invisible friends from the supernatural realm to work quite nicely.
Om-a-let you think about that for a spell.
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Very very very good. That what I told Micheal before in the post #15
Now we agreed it is the instinct. Okay ....
Is this instinct created by accident?
Of course yes!
Can this instinct disapear from offspring? I mean it is not necessarily inherited?
Be careful when you answer this question.
Regards,
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08-10-2015, 11:09 PM
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#203
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Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 2,395
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Quote:
ahoba wrote
Your answer is much appreciated. Can you please provide me some evidences?
In parallel, I am waiting for anyone to add another answer.
Many thanks.
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Here's your evidence....
Use foolproof airtight logic on a mind that's closed and you're dead. - William J. Reilly, Opening Closed Minds
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08-11-2015, 04:45 AM
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#204
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Quote:
ahoba wrote
Very very very good. That what I told Micheal before in the post #15
Now we agreed it is the instinct. Okay ....
Is this instinct created by accident?
Of course yes!
Can this instinct disapear from offspring? I mean it is not necessarily inherited?
Be careful when you answer this question.
Regards,
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Use foolproof airtight logic on a mind that's closed and you're dead. - William J. Reilly, Opening Closed Minds
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08-11-2015, 04:59 AM
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#205
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Join Date: May 2015
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Quote:
ahoba wrote
Very very very good. That what I told Micheal before in the post #15
Now we agreed it is the instinct. Okay ....
Is this instinct created by accident?
Of course yes!
Can this instinct disapear from offspring? I mean it is not necessarily inherited?
Be careful when you answer this question.
Regards,
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If you would have actually read my answers and were capable of comprehension you would have realized it's quite a bit more complicated than that. I also caveated it with the concept that a statistically small number of chickens may not exhibit this innate behavioral mechanism for whatever reason: nature, nurture, brain damage from a falling sky or getting messed up by a cock, chicken free will, retardation, anxiety, religious beliefs that God can do anything so if it's his will for the eggs to hatch he'll make it happen, a greater desire to cross the road than sit on eggs, general boredom, post-partum depression, gender identity issues, and perhaps other factors.
Before I provide the careful answer you so breathlessly await to this most important question that is so vitally critical to your existential framework, I do believe we should be both using the same, exacting definitions of words so as to communicate as precisely as possible.
Kindly define the following words for me: Accident. Instinct. Inherited. Answer. Necessarily. Disappear.
Thank you.
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08-11-2015, 06:26 AM
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#206
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Posts: 2,395
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Quote:
ahoba wrote
Very very very good. That what I told Micheal before in the post #15
Now we agreed it is the instinct. Okay ....
Is this instinct created by accident?
Of course yes!
Can this instinct disapear from offspring? I mean it is not necessarily inherited?
Be careful when you answer this question.
Regards,
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“The profession of shaman has many advantages. It offers high status with a safe livelihood free of work in the dreary, sweaty sense. In most societies it offers legal privileges and immunities not granted to other men. But it is hard to see how a man who has been given a mandate from on High to spread tidings of joy to all mankind can be seriously interested in taking up a collection to pay his salary; it causes one to suspect that the shaman is on the moral level of any other con man.
But it’s lovely work if you can stomach it.”
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- Heinlein
Use foolproof airtight logic on a mind that's closed and you're dead. - William J. Reilly, Opening Closed Minds
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08-11-2015, 12:24 PM
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#207
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 292
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Quote:
Sinfidel wrote
- Heinlein
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Got to love Heinlein! This is the best post in the thread, after the scorch marks on the OP.
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08-13-2015, 01:29 PM
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#208
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Quote:
AtomJack wrote
Got to love Heinlein! This is the best post in the thread, after the scorch marks on the OP.
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Thanks! Yes, Heinlein said it well, didn't he. Seems our Creationist Missionary has moved on to other Incubators.
Use foolproof airtight logic on a mind that's closed and you're dead. - William J. Reilly, Opening Closed Minds
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08-13-2015, 05:50 PM
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#209
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Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 292
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Truth is, I thought about a gig as a snake oil salesman for awhile, but as Heinlein pointed out, one has to have the stomach for it. I didn't.
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08-14-2015, 01:13 AM
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#210
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Location: Great Ocean Road
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Quote:
Sinfidel wrote
Thanks! Yes, Heinlein said it well, didn't he. Seems our Creationist Missionary has moved on to other Incubators.
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Does that mean we will never get the correct answer? Sheesh! I've been waiting for ages.
Once you are dead, you are nothing. Graffito, Pompeii
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