Veridican Theory of Hell

[Egor]

When we die, we go on to the next phase of life if, and only if, we have been converted into the spiritual nature of Christ. That next phase of life is similar to a lucid dream where the individual has vastly greater powers of creation and choice than they have in this physical world. And there are phases beyond that which I won’t go into in this post.

However, if one is not converted to the oneness of Christ, there is no way for them to enter this phase of life. These deformed spirits are in no way mature enough to handle such power, and God is not going to suffer their participation in it. Such an individual must be destroyed, or if they knew about Christ and rejected him, then they may well be punished for the pleasure of God (hell).

Jesus described hell as burning, outer darkness, weeping and anguish (gnashing of teeth). And this is actually quite necessary from a philosophical perspective. God is the source of all pleasure. Our entire being is attracted to God, and all the pleasures we seek on earth are mere surrogates for the real pleasure we seek in God.

If we are cast away from God so that we, for eternity, can never attain or even move toward that real pleasure we were designed to seek, then in an eternal environment we will suffer the torments of what is considered hell. It’s a simple formula: to want something with all of your being and be faced with the inevitability of eternal separation from it is--ultimately--torture. Burning, weeping, anguish, and darkness, are good analogies when applied to a spiritual being separated from God in eternity.

Keep in mind: In this life we at least have an end to our suffering. We die. But in hell, there is no death. There is an eternity of never having what you most desire. If one could go to death ignorant or guessing whether God is real or not, there might be some relief, so ability to deny the desire.

But when the atheist goes to hell, they will do so knowing that God exists.

[ghoulslime]

While honest and intelligent people are trying to live their one and only lives, douche bag's with nonsensical theories about nonexistent supreme beings and imaginary afterlives will continually postulate their delusions to people who don't give a single hummingbird poop to hear this bullshit. This is pure hell.

But when deluded theist conmen die, they will do so believing that they will get an imaginary reward for being assholes while alive, until the lights go out, and then they will be dead, just like the atheists.

[ghoulslime]

Egor wrote

God is the source of all pleasure.

Nice! Do you think I can get him to finger my asshole when he jacks me off tonight?

[Egor]

ghoulslime wrote

Nice! Do you think I can get him to finger my asshole when he jacks me off tonight?

A lot of people say they just can't imagine God sending people to hell. "How could a loving God so unjustly punish people for eternity for sins they did during their life." And in so saying, you'd think they were talking about people who ran a red light on the way home from church.

But when I read something like you wrote, and I think of the mind that wrote it, and then I think of the intention God had for your life when he imagined you and created you, and how great that insult would be to Him, I for one have no problem with the concept of hell.

And this is the thing--hell exists for the pleasure of God, so it is surely going to happen. In hell, you won't have the surrogate pleasures that stand in for what you truly desire, like you do here on earth. These surrogates exist simply by the grace and mercy of God for the time that we are here and in spiritual training.

In hell, you will only want God, but you will be separated eternally from Him. You don't understand this suffering now, because you won't actually think about it. You won't let yourself imagine it. But it's coming for you, Ghoulslime. You need to think about it. You need to consider Pascal's Wager.

[orangeitis]

Egor wrote

I for one have no problem with the concept of hell.

You have no problem with the concept of infinite torture for a finite crime? You don't find anything wrong with that? If you don't, you are the immoral one.

Egor wrote

hell exists for the pleasure of God

Whatever deity takes pleasure in that is highly immoral.

Egor wrote

You need to consider Pascal's Wager.

You do too. What if your concept of God and the afterlife is wrong, and someone else's concept of a deity and the afterlife is right? You're at risk for eternal punishment as well.

[Egor]

orangeitis wrote

You have no problem with the concept of infinite torture for a finite crime? You don't find anything wrong with that? If you don't, you are the immoral one.

Whatever. Me and Jesus Christ. Besides, atheism isn't a finite crime. If one dies an atheist, it's an eternal crime.

Whatever deity takes pleasure in that is highly immoral.

If God exists (and He does), judging him is logically absurd.

You do too. What if your concept of God and the afterlife is wrong, and someone else's concept of a deity and the afterlife is right? You're at risk for eternal punishment as well.

It's possible I may not be fit for the Kingdom of Heaven, but I'm trying, and trying seems to be all that's required.

You can sit here and bitch about how wrong hell is. That won't change anything. You should really take some time to think about God and His existence and what is expected of you by your Creator.

Why are you unwilling to do that?

[orangeitis]

Egor wrote

Whatever. Me and Jesus Christ. Besides, atheism isn't a finite crime. If one dies an atheist, it's an eternal crime.

No, atheism is a finite crime in your religion in the sense that one only can commit the crime in life before they face God. You say the punishment is eternal, not the crime. And that's immoral.

Egor wrote

If God exists (and He does), judging him is logically absurd.

No, it isn't. You're using special pleading. There's nothing special about your god. Unless you believe that it's because he's all-powerful, but then you'd believe in "might makes right", which is still immoral.

Egor wrote

It's possible I may not be fit for the Kingdom of Heaven, but I'm trying, and trying seems to be all that's required.

You can sit here and bitch about how wrong hell is. That won't change anything. You should really take some time to think about God and His existence and what is expected of you by your Creator.

Why are you unwilling to do that?

Because I care about what I believe to be true, and there is zero evidence for your claims. It won't matter how much I think about it, because if there's no proof, they'd be meaningless thoughts.

[Sol]

Egor wrote

You can sit here and bitch about how wrong hell is. That won't change anything. You should really take some time to think about God and His existence and what is expected of you by your Creator.

Why are you unwilling to do that?

At times like this, I ask myself - What would honey badger do ?

[ghoulslime]

orangeitis wrote

You have no problem with the concept of infinite torture for a finite crime? You don't find anything wrong with that? If you don't, you are the immoral one.

Whatever deity takes pleasure in that is highly immoral.

You do too. What if your concept of God and the afterlife is wrong, and someone else's concept of a deity and the afterlife is right? You're at risk for eternal punishment as well.

Thanks for saving me the trouble of responding to this fuckwit, orange!

What a delightful imaginary friend EGOr has! It is no wonder people like him turn out to be so twisted and perverse!

He is soooooo fucked when he dies and finds out that indeed the Leprechauns (blessed be their ale) are going to pee in his dirty mouth for saying all of the wicked things that he has in life.

[Stargazer]

Egor wrote

A lot of people say they just can't imagine God sending people to hell. "How could a loving God so unjustly punish people for eternity for sins they did during their life." And in so saying, you'd think they were talking about people who ran a red light on the way home from church.

No, what they can't imagine is God. In order to believe in any of his so-called actions, first you must believe in God. Thank goodness there are people here who just can't accept the BS required in order to do that.

Egor wrote

But when I read something like you wrote, and I think of the mind that wrote it, and then I think of the intention God had for your life when he imagined you and created you, and how great that insult would be to Him, I for one have no problem with the concept of hell.

Right, but only because you don't think you'll be going there.

Egor wrote

And this is the thing--hell exists for the pleasure of God, so it is surely going to happen. In hell, you won't have the surrogate pleasures that stand in for what you truly desire, like you do here on earth. These surrogates exist simply by the grace and mercy of God for the time that we are here and in spiritual training.

What a sick puppy your God is. Plus, your evidence for your theory of Hell and what happens there is, what?

Egor wrote

In hell, you will only want God, but you will be separated eternally from Him. You don't understand this suffering now, because you won't actually think about it. You won't let yourself imagine it. But it's coming for you, Ghoulslime. You need to think about it. You need to consider Pascal's Wager.

Be scared Ghoulslime. Really scared. And send money.

[ghoulslime]

Stargazer wrote

Be scared Ghoulslime. Really scared. And send money.

Oh, he has me trembling in my underpants!

Let me empty out Smelly's wallet right now!

[Stargazer]

ghoulslime wrote

Oh, he has me trembling in my underpants!

Let me empty out Smelly's wallet right now!

I absolutely CANNOT believe that he thinks you two are one and the same.

Still laughing!

[Smellyoldgit]

Oh joy. I reckon the fuckwit's blog must be back at zero traffic and he's either been thrown off the other forums he pollutes or reached saturation of being ridiculed - that means it's our turn for a dose of his stupid.

Good to see E-bore back in his fantasy land of made up bollocks, spiced with a finger sniff of anal action.

[Egor]

Smellyoldgit wrote

Oh joy. I reckon the fuckwit's blog must be back at zero traffic and he's either been thrown off the other forums he pollutes or reached saturation of being ridiculed - that means it's our turn for a dose of his stupid.

You know. You've been in the other forums. It's just your turn.

Good to see E-bore back in his fantasy land of made up bollocks, spiced with a finger sniff of anal action.

I have this theory, and I'd be willing to bet a hundred dollars that you and Gouhlslime are the same person. Of course, maybe I'm just the last to know.

In the very wee hours of the morning, you're on together. You have the same sexual dsyfunction, and your tone is exactly the same. He's supposed to be in California and you in England. There's no way you'd all be on at this time together.

How come it is unless I'm in here, the posts go two and three days without responses? Maybe you need to make up some more people to populate your forum with. No wonder you won't ban me.

[Stargazer]

Egor wrote

I have this theory, and I'd be willing to bet a hundred dollars that you and Gouhlslime are the same person. Of course, maybe I'm just the last to know.

I almost spilled my coffee. If you think they have the same tone, you are not reading very carefully.

Egor wrote

How come it is unless I'm in here, the posts go two and three days without responses? Maybe you need to make up some more people to populate your forum with. No wonder you won't ban me.

So, you think YOU'RE the life of this forum?

No.