Student kidnaps Eucharist - commits mortal sin

[Kate]

[Irreligious]

While I agree that it's all silly nonsense that is taken dead seriously by Roman Catholics, what should have been the proper protocol for the prime minister?

Had he refused the host, that would have caused a controversy all its own with the cameras present to document his impudence before Roman Catholic onloookers. And no "serious" Evangelical Protestant is going to eat a Catholic communion wafer in public, again, especially with cameras present to document his "blasphemy" before his fellow Evangelicals.

Looks like Harper was put in a no-win situation. Why did the priest offer him the host anyway? Wasn't the priest aware that Harper is not a Roman Catholic?

[Philboid Studge]

Irreligious wrote

While I agree that it's all silly nonsense that is taken dead seriously by Roman Catholics, what should have been the proper protocol for the prime minister?

Had he refused the host, that would have caused a controversy all its own with the cameras present to document his impudence before Roman Catholic onloookers. And no "serious" Evangelical Protestant is going to eat a Catholic communion wafer in public, again, especially with cameras present to document his "blasphemy" before his fellow Evangelicals.

Looks like Harper was put in a no-win situation. Why did the priest offer him the host anyway? Wasn't the priest aware that Harper is not a Roman Catholic?

Protocol: If you ain't Catholic, you shouldn't be up there tucking into Jesus. The RC onlookers know this and there would not have been a controversy at all if he'd just said no, the big dummy. He wasn't supposed to walk up there with all the cannibals.

[Kate]

im sorry, but i jsut had to post this one after the video.





anyway, the reason he was given that, was due to the fact that he was not catholic.
they knew who he was, trust me, presits make a note of that.
he knew who he was, and like everyone else, wanted to get that jesus into him.
its all at of the religous war.
much like a parent forccing his child to eat peas/other vegitable he dosent like.
"here, take and belive, damit steven believe!, thats it, go to your room and think about going to hell!"

[Smellyoldgit]

[calpurnpiso]

Kneel in reverence, clasp the Eucharist, tap the head of the god three times with your tongue, then wait for its Grace to White bless your face. In Its name Amen.
Only Christ-psychotic Catholics need crackers, the rest of the retards can submit to the REAL thing, which unfortunately for them is SIN.

Religious arguments aside, the "blessed wafer" is handed to individuals, by the priest or lay assistant, who receive it with the understanding that the wafer will be consumed on the spot. Refusing to do so violates the agreement between the Catholic Church and the recipient, an agreement in which the recipient receives the wafer for free and without having to sign any paperwork swearing that he is a devout Catholic (which puts them at least two notches above the Scientologists).

There are secular analogies. Right now bars sell alcoholic drinks with the understanding that they will be consumed on the premises. Taking them outside the bar has been made illegal in most places in the U.S. (if not everywhere), even though (provided you pour the drink out of the bar's glass before leaving) there's no "direct harm" situation which will result from the drink leaving the bar, much like the wafer leaving the church uneaten. In both instances, its largely an issue of morality: a person leaving a bar holding an open drink is seen as exhibiting immoral behavior in public, much as a person leaving a Catholic Church with an uneaten blessed wafer is seen as exhibiting immoral behavior in public.

The rather interesting fact is that even Catholics consider an unblessed wafer to be "a dry ... unleavened piece of flour" (I've had several and can personally attest that the flavor is rather nice). If the student wanted to show a a friend a Catholic wafer, of the type which is blessed in the Sacrament of the Eucharist, asking the priest for an unblessed wafer might have succeeded in getting the student an unblessed wafer.

One can be an atheist without being an a**hole. It can be done!

Philboid Studge wrote

Prime Minister Stephen Harper pockets Jesus and bails!

(What's an Evangelical doing at the Catholic buffet line in the first place eh?)

EDIT:

Like I said, if you go up to get the wafer, you agree to eat it right there. If you don't want to eat the wafer, don't get in line.

NOTE: Just because you choose to abstain from the Eucharist doesn't mean you'll be alone in the pews, or that you'll be considered a "bad Catholic." You could have "celiac." This is a condition which makes wheat gluten a deadly poison.

Despite the efforts of a crack team of cloistered techno-nuns in northwestern Missouri, who have developed a 100% gluten-free rice wafer, Pope Benedict has declared that the wafers used in the Eucharist need to be made from only one kind of grain: wheat **. This means that celiac sufferers cannot receive the wafer without risking a painful death.

Like peanut allergies, celiac can be deadly on a very tiny amount of wheat gluten. This means that receiving the wine is a problem as well: the person before them in line receives the wafer, begins chewing, drinks from the wine cup, and leaves a tiny amount of wafer in the cup. While the wine is still safe for normal people to drink (alcohol being a disinfectant), the tiny amount of gluten present in the wine will still kill the celiac sufferer.

So celiac sufferers who are Catholic generally have to abstain, unwillingly, from the Sacrament of Eucharist. The same crack team of techno-nuns has developed a wheat wafer which is 99.99% gluten-free (they are cloistered and celibate) so moderate to mild celiac sufferers may still receive the Eucharist without dying (just a lot of pain instead), but severe celiac sufferers who are Catholic still cannot receive the Sacrament of Eucharist.

** = This is because "wheat" is what the Pope considers the "grain of the poor": yes, the Asian countries, where rice is the "grain of the poor" and wheat must be imported at considerable expense, are understandably upset.

[Smellyoldgit]

Greetings 0-eternal one.
You are most welcome to post a few notes in our esteemed "Introduce Yourself" thread - if it tickles your fancy.

eternal0void wrote

One can be an atheist without being an a**hole. It can be done!

I used to think that too!

Lily wrote

I used to think that too!

I've been a (generally) polite atheist from age 18 onwards.

eternal0void wrote

I've been a (generally) polite atheist from age 18 onwards.

If you hang out here for long, that will change. Of course, you will probably remain polite in real life. I imagine that many here are reasonably pleasant in real life. The virtual world doesn't bring out the best in most of us.

[Smellyoldgit]

Lily wrote

The virtual world doesn't bring out the best in most of us.

Bollocks !!