sevens

[antix]

Sevens wrote

How can I accept what you say when there is no counter evidence?

Anyway this thread is in the forum, dont worry about it.

Sevens

Why do you keep saying "don't worry about it?"

Let me guess, the answer is: "Sorry, wrong forum. don't worry about it."

[Sevens]

Antix

Because no one is interested and its Theist based to some degree and yet its from a base that no one is familiar with, not even the chruches. I dont want to upset anyone unduly. If people want me to fuck off, I will no problem.

But the thread and myself has to be deleted from the fourm. Im quite happy for that if you are.

Sevens

[antix]

Sevens wrote

Antix

Because no one is interested and its Theist based to some degree and yet its from a base that no one is familiar with, not even the chruches. I dont want to upset anyone unduly. If people want me to fuck off, I will no problem.

But the thread and myself has to be deleted from the fourm. Im quite happy for that if you are.

Sevens

You haven't upset anyone. Honest. And I really don't care if you stick around or if you fuck off.

But I fail to see how deleting the thread will accomplish anything. You could just stop posting, and eventually the thread will fall into obscurity and be forgotten. Such is the fate of most threads that ever get started. Unless you're saying that as long as the thread exists, you have no choice but to continue posting in it?

[Sevens]

Your right I see what your saying.

sevens

[psychodiva]

Sevens wrote

Antix

Because no one is interested and its Theist based to some degree and yet its from a base that no one is familiar with, not even the chruches. I dont want to upset anyone unduly. If people want me to fuck off, I will no problem.

But the thread and myself has to be deleted from the fourm. Im quite happy for that if you are.

Sevens

look- what on earth makes you think ono one is familiar with this crap? it has all been said, done and looked at before- decades ago! what these people in this book are doing is just giving shit another name

[Sevens]

I agree Im in the wrong forum, anyway this stuff is being proven everyday by scientists.
sevens

[psychodiva]

Sevens wrote

I agree Im in the wrong forum, anyway this stuff is being proven everyday by scientists.
sevens

where? what scientists? where is it published? what proof?

[Sevens]

here some stuff

Here is some research on the moon that I thought you guys might be interested in.
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I was doing some research in the UB about the Moon and read that enormous space bodies collided in the earth and as a result, the earth gained in size on the moon. The earth could of had 3 moons where 2 moons collided in the earth. So I thought I would some research into this and found some interesting results.

This back in time
The UB
http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webgl...l&line=156#mfs
2,000,000,000 years ago the earth began decidedly to gain on the moon. Always had the planet been larger than its satellite, but there was not so much difference in size until about this time, when enormous space bodies were captured by the earth. Urantia was then about one fifth its present size and had become large enough to hold the primitive atmosphere which had begun to appear as a result of the internal elemental contest between the heated interior and the cooling crust.
and this
line 158: 1,500,000,000 years ago the earth was two thirds its present size, while the moon was nearing its present mass. Earth's rapid gain over the moon in size enabled it to begin the slow robbery of the little atmosphere which its satellite originally had.

here is the moon search link
http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webgl...ers?query=moon
and this interesting fragment, the process of how the earth captured the space bodies

Here is what current scientists are saying about there Earth and its 3 moons.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354598,00.html

NASA: Earth May Once Have Had Three Moons
Earth may once have had more than one moon, most probably two more, NASA scientists think.
Prevailing scientific consensus holds that the existing Moon was formed when a Mars-sized planet collided with the Earth 4.5 billion years ago, when the solar system was very young.
So much matter would have been thrown up into space that it recollected under its own gravity to form the Moon, which for millions of years would have glowed red-hot as the molten rock from the planetary collision cooled.
However, researchers Jack J. Lissauer of NASA's Ames Research Center near Mountain View, Calif., and John E. Chambers of the Carnegie Institution of Washington figure quite a bit of that ejected matter would have recollected into two other small moons at the so-called "Lagrangian points" or "Trojan points."
Those are fixed places in the Moon's orbit around the Earth where the gravity of both large bodies would keep smaller objects in stable positions.
"The giant impact that likely led to the formation of the Moon launched a lot of material into Earth orbit, and some could well have been caught in the Lagrangian points," Lissauer tells New Scientist magazine.
For example, there are two groups of asteroids in the Lagrangian points of Jupiter's orbit around the Sun — one called the "Greek camp" leads the giant planet by 60 degrees in its circular orbit, while the other group, dubbed the "Trojan camp," follows 60 degrees behind.

Lissauer and Chambers figure the two small moons would have orbited Earth for about 100 million years before the slight gravitational tugs from the solar system's other planets sent them spiraling off course, either to crash into the Moon or Earth or to drift off into space.

In a separate study, astrophysicist Matija Cuk of the University of British Columbia thinks the smallest possible moons, those only a few dozen miles across, could have lasted for up to a billion years at the Lagrangian points in the Moon's orbit.
"They would have looked more like Jupiter or Venus in the sky than a satellite," Cuk said to New Scientist. "They would have resembled very bright stars."

According to this link the moon is moving away from the earth in the last 900 million years but the earth rotation has slowed by one second each year which means that the earth is loosing its influence over the moon.
http://www.exo.net/~pauld/activities...hreemoons.html

Astronauts left laser reflectors on the moon. Scientists bounce lasers off of these reflectors and measure precisly (to within a few centimeters).These measurements show that the moon's orbit is increasing in radius by about 3.8 cm/yr. The Moon has moved 3000 km further away over the last 900 million years. At the same time, the earth's rotation rate is slowed adding an extra second to the length of the year, almost every year.

And about Orbits of the other satelites orbiting the moon
http://www.exo.net/~pauld/activities...my/orbits.html

Very interesting
and this link about another discovery of another satellite but very curious and puzzling.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2251386.stm
Sevens

[Sevens]

And this
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Here is what scientists are saying about the age of this Earth

How Old Is The Earth, And How Do We Know?
he generally accepted age for the Earth and the rest of the solar system is about 4.55 billion years (plus or minus about 1%). This value is derived from several different lines of evidence
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-age-of-earth.html

and the UB

The Urantia Book
http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webgl...l&line=134#mfs
4,500,000,000 years ago the enormous Angona system began its approach to the neighborhood of this solitary sun. The center of this great system was a dark giant of space, solid, highly charged, and possessing tremendous gravity pull.
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As Angona more closely approached the sun, at moments of maximum expansion during solar pulsations, streams of gaseous material were shot out into space as gigantic solar tongues. At first these flaming gas tongues would invariably fall back into the sun, but as Angona drew nearer and nearer, the gravity pull of the gigantic visitor became so great that these tongues of gas would break off at certain points, the roots falling back into the sun while the outer sections would become detached to form independent bodies of matter, solar meteorites, which immediately started to revolve about the sun in elliptical orbits of their own.
and this part
2,000,000,000 years ago the earth began decidedly to gain on the moon. Always had the planet been larger than its satellite, but there was not so much difference in size until about this time, when enormous space bodies were captured by the earth. Urantia was then about one fifth its present size and had become large enough to hold the primitive atmosphere which had begun to appear as a result of the internal elemental contest between the heated interior and the cooling crust.
Definite volcanic action dates from these times. The internal heat of the earth continued to be augmented by the deeper and deeper burial of the radioactive or heavier elements brought in from space by the meteors. The study of these radioactive elements will reveal that Urantia is more than one billion years old on its surface. The radium clock is your most reliable timepiece for making scientific estimates of the age of the planet, but all such estimates are too short because the radioactive materials open to your scrutiny are all derived from the earth's surface and hence represent Urantia's comparatively recent acquirements of these elements.

All makes sense
Sevens

[Sevens]

and this
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Here is an article from scientists who also think the moon and other space bodies that collided into the Earth which made it larger than the Moon. To me it supports the Urantia version.
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/1993
and
Earth Had Three Moons: NASA Says It's Possible
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/0..._n_100881.html
Here is an image of one of the Moons moons
Cruin the Earth's Second Moon 5 kilometers wide and can't be seen with the naked eye, follows a strange horse shoe orbit around the earth

http://www.ufodata.co.uk/forum/viewt...hp?f=15&t=3218
and this about the 5th planet
http://ldolphin.org/update.html

Exploding Planets and Ancient Catastrophes
by Lambert Dolphin, Physicist May 1997
Five planets (Gk: wanderers) were known to the ancient Greeks and Romans. They named these "non-fixed stars" after their gods. In addition to Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn, Uranus was found in 1781, Neptune in 1846 and Pluto in 1930. (1) Johannes Kepler (1571-1630) thought there should be an additional planet between Mars and Jupiter. A bit later Johann David Titius (1729-1794) noted the curious spacing of the planets--each was twice the distance from the Sun as its predecessor. Johannes Bode formulated this as a "law" in 1778 leading to an intensive search for the "missing" planet.
In January of 1801 the mystery of the missing planet unfolded rapidly. However only a broad belt of rock fragments--the asteroid belt--was found. These rings of fragments averaged 2.8 AU from the Sun (AU stands for "astronomical unit," with the earth being at 1 AU from the Sun). The first four asteroids discovered were Ceres, Pallas, Vesta, Juno--the named list today numbers several hundred. The biggest are 200 to 480 miles in diameter. (2)
The asteroids are not ordinary pieces of rocks and clouds of dust that never quite coalesced to become a legitimate planet. There are enough asteroid pieces in orbit now to form an object less than a tenth a mass of the moon, but originally there may have been a planet at that location with a gravity two-thirds of the earth's, a 4.5 year orbit and a perhaps a 57.5 hour day. (2) Another estimate is that the original planet may have been perhaps 15 times larger than the earth. (3)

And now here is the Urantia Book
http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webgl...l&line=141#mfs

Shooting stars occur in swarms because they are the fragments of larger bodies of matter which have been disrupted by tidal gravity exerted by near-by and still larger space bodies. Saturn's rings are the fragments of a disrupted satellite. One of the moons of Jupiter is now approaching dangerously near the critical zone of tidal disruption and, within a few million years, will either be claimed by the planet or will undergo gravity-tidal disruption. The fifth planet of the solar system of long, long ago traversed an irregular orbit, periodically making closer and closer approach to Jupiter until it entered the critical zone of gravity-tidal disruption, was swiftly fragmentized, and became the present-day cluster of asteroids.

To me that seems like a clear match.
More moon facts
http://www.informantnews.com/starshi...nar/moon2.html
and this
Ub
http://www.urantia.org/cgi-bin/webgl...l&line=187#mfs

950,000,000 years ago Urantia presents the picture of one great continent of land and one large body of water, the Pacific Ocean. Volcanoes are still widespread and earthquakes are both frequent and severe. Meteors continue to bombard the earth, but they are diminishing in both frequency and size. The atmosphere is clearing up, but the amount of carbon dioxide continues large. The earth's crust is gradually stabilizing.
It was at about this time that Urantia was assigned to the system of Satania for planetary administration and was placed on the life registry of Norlatiadek.

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Then began the administrative recognition of the small and insignificant sphere which was destined to be the planet whereon Michael would subsequently engage in the stupendous undertaking of mortal bestowal, would participate in those experiences which have since caused Urantia to become locally known as the "world of the cross."

Sevens

[Smellyoldgit]

Fuck off back to your other retarded thread.



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