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[YouTube] Thunderf00t versus Ray Comfort
I'm sure you all know the banana man Ray Comfort. Recently he sat down and had a lengthy discussion with anti-creationist and Youtube'r Thunderf00t. Take a look if it intrests you.
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then is he malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~Epicurus |
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07-25-2009, 03:57 PM
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OHH, ME GOTS TO WATCH THESE, NEED TIME,NEED TIME!!!!!!!!!
oh well, il bet this is an interesting discussion! |
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07-25-2009, 06:00 PM
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I watched the first 2 minutes - then the fuckwit on the right quoted the buybull, claiming he "knows" what happened "in the beginning."
Question - should I waste any more bandwidth? Stop the Holy See men! |
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07-25-2009, 06:30 PM
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Depends. If you're the kind of person that gets a kick out of slamming your head in the wall out of frustration, repeatedly, then that's a big yes.
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then is he malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~Epicurus |
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07-25-2009, 06:42 PM
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Thanks Vlad - I'll watch an hour of porn instead - much better value!
 Stop the Holy See men! |
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07-25-2009, 07:17 PM
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You last that long?
 "Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then is he malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~Epicurus |
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07-25-2009, 07:23 PM
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Good point - I'll spread it over 3 weeks.
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07-26-2009, 06:00 AM
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"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then is he malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" ~Epicurus |
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07-26-2009, 10:33 PM
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I found a few of the ways that Thunderfoot expressed his points interesting.
The idea that, if God gave us the ability to use our brains to have a relationship with Him, then it was a kind of model-building imagination that could make, and believe in, an entity that did not exist, and we would have no method for testing the reality of that model. About the idea that a painting must have a painter; we only have experience of human painters so, given a thing that we suspect was created by an intelligence, the most that we are justified in deducing is a human, not anything more than human. The complexity of an animal exceeds the capability of any (current) human so the intelligence of its creator cannot be deduced and may even be zero. "Those who most loudly proclaim their honesty are least likely to possess it." "Atheism: rejecting all absurdity." S.H. "Reality, the God alternative" |
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01-10-2010, 06:43 PM
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This is furiously frustrating. Thunderfoot makes a statement, Comfort says he can't make that statement. Comfort makes a statement, Thunderfoot questions it, Comfort says "it's in the scripture. I know. You don't know".
If you took a shot every time Comfort says "scripture", you'd black out by minute 3. |
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